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Michael Ruiz
TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 20, 2010 at 6:36:52 am

Hi All

Im digitizing from an HDCAM SR Deck and Im getting TC breaks where no TC breaks exist. I've checked the masters by scrolling the deck and they are solid Network HDCAM SR QC masters. It isn't dropped frames and the TC breaks are random 1 per 42 minute master

Im digitizing from HDCAM SR 23.98 to PRO RES 23.98.

any ideas would help...thanks

MAC PRO 8 core 6 GB ram
Snow Leopard
Kona 3
Graid 4T 800 firewire
HDCAM SRW 5500 Deck




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John Pale
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 20, 2010 at 6:45:11 am

Using Tri Level Sync?


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Michael Ruiz
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 20, 2010 at 6:48:52 am

Not sure what Tri Level Sync is ?



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Michael Ruiz
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 20, 2010 at 6:59:30 am

There we go another TC break .. shoot ..



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Shane Ross
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 20, 2010 at 7:30:39 am

It is a SYNC generator...one needed for HD decks. It is a more sophisticated form of BLACK BURST. Which is a means of sending SYNC to decks that ensure that they pay back at a steady rate. Without this connected to the deck, capturing or outputting will be impossible.

You need this:

http://www.aja.com/products/converters/converters-hd-gen10.php


Shane



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Michael Ruiz
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 20, 2010 at 7:58:17 am

Ive never had to use one ... I've captured and mastered to HDCAM SR for the past 2 years without one. It's only now that I've gone to a new Mac Pro and Snow Leopard that it's doing this. I have a Dual G5 with a Kona 2 and It's capturing and laying off to this SR Deck without a skipped frame. I could punch in a single frame with it.

Any other ideas why this would happen..



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Michael Ruiz
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 20, 2010 at 9:02:59 am

Removed Lycom eSata card from lane 4 and moved Kona 3 Card to lane 3 and it's TC break free .. Replacing Lycom eSata card with Tempo e4p hopefully she stays stable so we could work through this weekend... I'll be picking up the GEN10 Tri Sync on monday .. Thanks for the info Shane and John !!





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John Pale
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 20, 2010 at 4:53:01 pm

You are so lucky Zelin missed this thread....you have no idea....


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gary adcock
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 20, 2010 at 6:57:43 pm

[John Pale] "You are so lucky Zelin missed this thread....you have no idea...."

some of us were just waiting...



gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows for the Digitally Inclined
Chicago, IL

http://blogs.creativecow.net/24640


http://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php




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Michael Ruiz
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 21, 2010 at 12:26:43 am

ohhh .. the wrath of Zelin .. Im shaking in my boots .. tell him it's still happening ..



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Andrew Kimery
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 21, 2010 at 3:30:02 am

What is your Servo Reference on the deck set to? If we are capturing from our SRW-5500 and have it set to anything besides "input" we get phantom TC breaks left and right.


-Andrew

3.2GHz 8-core, FCP 6.0.4, 10.5.5
Blackmagic Multibridge Eclipse (6.8.1)



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Michael Ruiz
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 21, 2010 at 3:38:05 am

Thanks ... I'll take a look first thing on monday morning. I should try "input" on the Servo Reference ? Servo Reference is in the TC set up menu ?



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Andrew Kimery
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 21, 2010 at 9:18:51 am

I think it might be under the "Video" menu, but I can't recall off hand.


-Andrew

3.2GHz 8-core, FCP 6.0.4, 10.5.5
Blackmagic Multibridge Eclipse (6.8.1)



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Jeremy Garchow
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 21, 2010 at 4:30:55 pm

Tri level sync won't help you on capture.


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Michael Ruiz
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 22, 2010 at 1:57:24 am

hmmm ... The Tri level sync won't help ??

Any ideas ??





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Jeremy Garchow
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 22, 2010 at 3:05:22 am

Call AJA and ask for the small text plugin that will alter the way FCP polls the deck.

You should get trisymc anywY, but the Kona references incoming video on captures.


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Michael Ruiz
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 22, 2010 at 3:13:57 am

Will call AJA first thing in the am .. and order the GEN10 :) Thanks much appreciated !





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gary adcock
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 22, 2010 at 3:55:06 pm

[Michael Ruiz] "Servo Reference is in the TC set up menu ?"

that would depend on which deck-
in the studio decks I believe it is in the Maintenance menu.
On the SRW1 I believe it is in the System menu.

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows for the Digitally Inclined
Chicago, IL

http://blogs.creativecow.net/24640


http://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php




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Michael Ruiz
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 22, 2010 at 4:07:40 pm

Thanks .. I'll check it out when I get to the studio in 45 minutes



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Michael Ruiz
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 22, 2010 at 4:08:07 pm

It's the SRW 5500 Deck



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Michael Ruiz
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 22, 2010 at 5:49:45 pm

Checking the small text plugin now ... will update forum in 1.5 hours.. Thanks everyone!



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Joey Burnham
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 22, 2010 at 11:08:49 pm

Did you try in your preferences to switch the "upon timecode break" option to "warn after capture"?
Joey


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Michael Ruiz
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 23, 2010 at 12:46:54 am

I contacted AJA and they gave me this DisableAltETTPolling.txt for my FCP plugin folder and it's working. Thanks !!



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Jeremy Garchow
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 23, 2010 at 2:33:14 am

Glad it's working for you. All the refernce and sync
issues you have learned about here are all valid. Heed the advice.

It's just that little file makes a bit of a different with 23.98 Sony HD captures.


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Michael Ruiz
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 23, 2010 at 2:35:24 am

Thank You !!!



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Jeremy Garchow
Re: TC Breaks on SR DECK Digitize
on Feb 23, 2010 at 2:36:50 am

I mean to say bit of difference (not different). Damn iPhones!


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