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Shawn Bann
How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 12:30:23 am



yet another question...

how do you go about replacing source audio?

exaple:
my video has the on-board camera audio. i have dual-system audio.
i sync it all up with the slate.

how do i "marry" the new audio with the video?
subclip?

i want the new audio attatched to the source so i can multiclip takes,
and have the good audio.

*hope that makes sense

thanks for any input!
appreciate it

shawn


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Shawn Bann
Re: How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 1:19:44 am

cool. thanks kevin!

shawn


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Shawn Bann
Re: How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 1:28:14 am

from what ive gathered, you can not merge a video clip that already has audio
(which mine does)

does this mean i have to do another step and strip out all my unusable "camera" audio?

s


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John Fishback
Re: How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 1:51:19 am

Line up the new audio in sync with the original video clip and its audio. Then, unmerge the original audio & video and then merge the new audio with the video.

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Shawn Bann
Re: How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 2:00:02 am

hey john

that works ok when working in the sequence, but what if you have this scenario.

you have 3 camera angles re-linked with your sync audio and now you want to
use the multicam feature. when you do a match frame, it pulls the orginal audio
into the preview, not your new sync.

i think merge is the feature i want, but when i select the video & new audio for sync,
merge isn't an option (greyed out)

shawn

ps
i did read the other posts in the cow about this, but didnt' seem like i could
find the easiest resolution.

thanks again!


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Andy Mees
Re: How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 2:43:20 am

Hey Shawn
I can't seem to duplicate your problem here .... for reference, I select both a video clip and an audio clip in the browser, right click (ctrl click) that selection and choose Merge Clips... from the context menu, seems to work fine. What are the steps you are taking when trying to merge your new audio with video?
Best
Andy


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Shawn Bann
Re: How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 3:00:09 am

andy

ive attached a screen shot....
a1/a2 has the orginal audio that is with the video
a3/a4 has my new audio

i highlight the video track
i highlight the new audio track

then go to merge
*i tried linking then merge but still the same

shawn




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Shawn Bann
Re: How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 3:03:13 am

is this feature to be done on a bin level as opposed to the sequence?
maybe thats my issue, although i would image it would work both ways.

hMMm

thanks for your input
s


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Andy Mees
Re: How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 4:28:30 am

exactly .. should be done a bin level, just as you would for creating a multiclip ... it creates a new "merged" clip item which you use thereafter


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Shawn Bann
Re: How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 4:49:05 am

so i tried that method (*on a bin level) and 'merge' in the menu is still not available

1st- found the audio file & selected
2nd- found the video file & selected
3rd- go to modify

attached is a screen grab....
i feel like such a noob!!




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Andy Mees
Re: How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 6:05:35 am

Hey Steven
I think the fact that you have separated your selections within two separate bin windows is preventing the function from working ... close the "Audio" bin window/tab and then in the main Browser window use the various bin's disclosure triangles to view and select from their contents (ie use a hierarchical view in the main Browser window) ... now retry the Merge Clips function
Hope it helps
Andy


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Shawn Bann
Re: How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 6:19:58 am

ah ha!
that was it.


thank you very much for walking me through this!
appreciate it.

shawn


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Andy Mees
Re: How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 6:36:52 am

you're very welcome ... great use of screenshots by the way, I reckon we'd have gone round in circles without them!


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Shawn Bann
Re: How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 6:57:37 am

yet another query

when i merge the clips it retains the original audio,
1&2 are my source audio
2&3 are the new merged audio

is there anyway to override the 1&2 tracks?

ultimately i am trying to sync audio (from a dual-sync shoot), merge and then
use my different takes in a multiclip...

id like to just get rid of the original audio, since its not being used, and makes
the multiclip function a bit messy

s


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Andy Mees
Re: How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 12:14:45 pm

Sorry Steven
The function is strictly a "Merge" one, not a "Replace" one ... if Merged clips are not doing it for you then you might want to work with reference movies instead. Creating a reference movie for the purpose you need can be either is a timeline level operation or both browser and timeline level operation. At the timeline level you can manually sync your video and audio clips, delete unnecessary audio, then Export a Quicktime Movie w/ Current Settings but uncheck the Make Self Contained option; or for browser and timeline method, select the two separate video and audio clips to sync in the browser window then chose Make Multiclip Sequnece... again, delete unnecessary audio from the created sequence, Export a Quicktime Movie w/ Current Settings and uncheck the Make Self Contained option. Reimport the newly created movies and use those in place of the original audio and video media ... and whatever else you do, don't delete the original video media as those clips are still being referenced by these new clips!

Warning: the timecode on the newly created clips will be the sequence timecode not the original clip timecode ... if you need original clip timecode you can manually set the sequence timecode to match, or better still, you can use the Make Multiclip Sequence method described above as that will automatically generate a sequence with timecode that matches the source.

Hope it helps
Andy


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Kevin Monahan
Re: How to replace source audio?
on Jan 18, 2010 at 5:53:24 pm

You'd think that FCP would still be OK with making the clips Merge regardless if two bin windows are open side by side. Apple, here is a feature request!

Wish everyone would make screen shots like this!

Kevin Monahan
60 Blu-ray Templates for Final Cut Studio 2009
http://www.fcpworld.com
Author - Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro


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