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Ian Westermann
Final Cut exporting from Flip HD video
on Jan 8, 2010 at 3:15:20 pm

Greetings everybody, hopefully I'm posting in the right place for this.

I've been trying to edit and export video from my new Flip HD Ultra recently but unfortunately the video quality drops significantly. The video clips directly out of the flip cam are awesome, great resolution, sharpness, etc. After editing in Final Cut Express and exporting to QuickTime the video looks very low res, much lower quality.

Should I be preparing the video somehow before I edit it? Is there a certain exporting technique that I should be using? My system and software info is below. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

-Ian

Final Cut Express 4.0.1
New Flip HD Ultra
Quicktime 7.6.4
MacBook 2.4 GHz Intel
Mac OS 10.5.8


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Shane Ross
Re: Final Cut exporting from Flip HD video
on Jan 8, 2010 at 6:31:58 pm

Telling us HOW you export, and to what codec, would really help


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David Roth Weiss
Re: Final Cut exporting from Flip HD video
on Jan 8, 2010 at 6:42:09 pm

Shane,

For the record, all Flip Cams record as MP4 files.

The files are best transcoded to ProRes before editing. However, I did put an HD MP4 file from my Flip Cam Mino on the timeline as a test, and while it was not the best editing experience, it did not look degraded as Ian is suggesting.

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Ian Westermann
Re: Final Cut exporting from Flip HD video
on Jan 8, 2010 at 6:52:38 pm

Thanks a lot for the reply, David.

After dragging my MP4 files into Final Cut the video looks just fine when viewing in the time line, the same type of quality as if I were to open the video file with quicktime from my desktop. It's after exporting the video from Final Cut that the quality is decreased.


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Shane Ross
Re: Final Cut exporting from Flip HD video
on Jan 8, 2010 at 7:16:13 pm

I know what they record, and that you need to convert to ProRes. We have two, and used them on a show as CRASH CAMS, or interior car cams. But the question was when he exported from FCP they look low quality. So, what did he export as from FCP?



Shane



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David Roth Weiss
Re: Final Cut exporting from Flip HD video
on Jan 8, 2010 at 7:44:11 pm

[Shane Ross] "I know what they record, and that you need to convert to ProRes. We have two"

Oh!!! Gotcha, sorry for the intrusion...[Shane Ross] "But the question was when he exported from FCP they look low quality. So, what did he export as from FCP?"

[Shane Ross] "But the question was when he exported from FCP they look low quality. So, what did he export as from FCP?"

I think he's using FCE, so that means he's somewhat limited in his choices, right?

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David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles

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Ian Westermann
Re: Final Cut exporting from Flip HD video
on Jan 8, 2010 at 6:50:42 pm

Thanks for responding Shane. I have no knowledge about types of video format or codec's etc, please excuse my ignorance. I'm following the below sequence:

1. Drag MP4 file onto my desktop from the flip cam
2. Drag video file into Final Cut Express
3. File > Export > Quicktime Movie
4. Save to desktop

I haven't changed any final cut settings, or know if there are any having to do with exported video quality etc.


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Shane Ross
Re: Final Cut exporting from Flip HD video
on Jan 8, 2010 at 7:55:59 pm

I know little about FCE, so bear with me.

You dragged the MP4's into FCE...then exported? Why? did you edit first? FCE...and FCP...don't edit MP4's natively. So you must have some other sequence setting going on, like DV. Did you need to render when you imported the footage? What are your sequence settings?



Shane



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Ian Westermann
Re: Final Cut exporting from Flip HD video
on Jan 8, 2010 at 10:07:25 pm

Thanks again for the replies guys.

When I export from Final Cut Express the result is a .mov file.

To actually play the MP4 clip I have to render them first, yes. I get the same result when cutting a MP4 file up and just exporting without rendering first as well. I'm able to view individual frames in the player on the upper right but can't actually play the MP4 files without rendering first.

Not sure what you mean by "sequence settings". Sorry I forgot about rendering the clips in my previous messages, I've definitely told you guys my whole process now.

I'm putting the MP4 files into FCE to edit them, yes.

Thanks again, cheers.

-Ian


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Stacey Bilodeau
Re: Final Cut exporting from Flip HD video
on Nov 28, 2010 at 12:35:42 am

I am using Final Cut Express trying to edit Flip Video HD Footage. They are in the MP4 format and I use MPEG Streamclip to convert them into MOV firmat. However, I do not know what to compress them as so that I do not have to render them in Final Cut Express.(Always get the Red Line in FInal Cut Express)
I have tried a few different compressions options in MPEG Streamclip but still have to render in Final Cut Express. I go ahead and render them in Final Cut Express but would preferably not have to do that all the time. I then export the video and the quality is awful. This is the workflow for when I Export:
Export using quicktime conversion; Settings are: Compression H264; Quality as Best; Dimensions are 1280 X 720; and Deinterlace Video checked.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you in advance
Stacey Bilodeau


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