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Kevin Carlson
Export settings for digital master
on Dec 8, 2009 at 6:06:59 pm

Sorry if I ask obvious questions, but I'm completely self taught, and don't work with anyone more knowledgeable...

I work for a ministry that sells videos in many formats, and I would like to export a "master" video file from FCP, which I can use in compressor to export flash videos, DVD video files, mpeg4s, mp3s, etc...

Typically I've just used Export Quicktime movie and made a self contained .mov with "current settings", but I get the feeling it would be better if I used Compressor to export--I'm just not sure what settings will give me the best quality. I want to be able to make these other formats from a master file so I am not doing it from the timeline in FCP each time, so I can work on editing other things while compressor is running. I suppose if I can get the same quality exporting with FCP that might be helpful since I can use the Batch export feature to do several sequences at once, and thus save time.

Please enlighten me, either with Compressor setting suggestions, or FCP QT exporting settings that would be just as good.

Everything we do right now is 30P, shot on miniDV with an XL2.


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David Roth Weiss
Re: Export settings for digital master
on Dec 8, 2009 at 6:37:22 pm

Are you editing DV or HDV?

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Kevin Carlson
Re: Export settings for digital master
on Dec 8, 2009 at 6:46:37 pm

Editing SD--figured no sense in editing HD when we have no HD footage, or HD final products.


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David Roth Weiss
Re: Export settings for digital master
on Dec 8, 2009 at 7:26:56 pm

It's just that you said your original was on mini DV, and I wanted to clarification, because HDV also is recorded to mini DV tape.

So, since you're editing DV, you can improve your graphics and text using the following trick before output, but your original video is as good as it's ever going to get and it won't improve.

When your done editing, go to Sequence>>Settings and change the compressor from DV to DV50, then re-render, now export as you did before as a self contained QT using current settings.

What this accomplishes is the following:

1) It renders to DV50 in 4:2:2 color space instead of the DV 4:1:1 color space, which means that your graphics and text will remain pristine and not highly compressed by the horrible DV codec.

2) The export will output a DV50 file instead of a DV file, which will be twice the size, but which will have vastly better color depth and less compression on your text and graphics.

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Kevin Carlson
Re: Export settings for digital master
on Dec 8, 2009 at 7:34:29 pm

Thank you so much for writing back, and you're right that I should have clarified, and not assumed everyone knew that the Canon XL2 won't shoot HD.

Your answer makes sense.

So, is there no advantage to using Compressor to export for this purpose?


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David Roth Weiss
Re: Export settings for digital master
on Dec 8, 2009 at 8:14:58 pm

[Kevin Carlson] "So, is there no advantage to using Compressor to export for this purpose?"

Not only is there no advantage, but you'd have the disadvantage of not being able to render graphics and text in 4:2:2 color space.

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Ken Jones
Re: Export settings for digital master
on Dec 8, 2009 at 8:04:02 pm

If you want to save even more time make a "Quicktime Reference Movie" instead of a self contained movie. This is especially useful if you are exporting long sequences. Drop the QT ref movie into Compressor and set up a batch for output to your different formats. Batch Monitor will render your movies. You can then go back and work on other projects in FCP while Batch Monitor works in the background.


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David Roth Weiss
Re: Export settings for digital master
on Dec 8, 2009 at 8:21:00 pm

[Ken Jones] "If you want to save even more time make a "Quicktime Reference Movie" instead of a self contained movie."

Ken,

Yes it's a time saver initially, but reference files can also be a disaster waiting to happen. As I'm sure you know, one render or one change in the timeline make a reference file completely NG. It's very common for users at all levels to archive a reference file by mistake, only to find out later on they have no archived version of their project.

So, I encourage FCP users to create self contained QTs all the time simply for safety sake. Hard drive space is cheap, cheap, cheap these days, so there's no compelling reason to save space any longer as there once was.

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Ken Jones
Re: Export settings for digital master
on Dec 8, 2009 at 8:48:25 pm

David - all points understood, but...

[David Roth Weiss] "one render or one change in the timeline make a reference file completely NG. "

Wouldn't one change in the timeline also make a self contained movie no good?
You would have to re-export either a self contained or a reference movie.
Granted, once you delete the original media and renders a reference movie does you no good.

In my tests, a self contained movie takes about 10X longer to output than a reference movie. If you are working on a deadline with long sequences (such as a 60-90 minute church service) a reference movie is a lot quicker.


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Kevin Carlson
Re: Export settings for digital master
on Dec 8, 2009 at 9:12:30 pm

Thanks for the posts, guys.
I think you two already understand each other, but I tend to lean more toward the idea of exporting self contained files. True, if you change the timeline it won't be changed in the SC movie, but at least I will still have that master of what the sequence was like at that particular time. Plus, I won't have to worry about saving the digital raw footage if we only archive the tapes.


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David Roth Weiss
Re: Export settings for digital master
on Dec 8, 2009 at 10:44:43 pm

[Kevin Carlson] "I think you two already understand each other, but I tend to lean more toward the idea of exporting self contained files."

Yep, I agree with you on all accounts Kevin.

Ken and are really in agreement too, but he just likes to take a bit more risk.



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