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Alec Beard
New external HD = slower rendering??
on Nov 28, 2009 at 1:23:52 am

I just bought a 1TB external HD and connected it for Firewire 800 to my G5. I made that HD my scratch disk. And now my rendering takes forever. Am I missing something?


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Steve Eisen
Re: New external HD = slower rendering??
on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:25:15 am

You missed telling us what brand drive and the specs of it. What type of footage you are rendering. Are there any other devices connected to the FW 800 port.

Steve Eisen
Eisen Video Productions
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Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group


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Alec Beard
Re: New external HD = slower rendering??
on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:54:27 am

It's a 1 tb G-Drive. Nothing else hooked up to it. The footage is from a Sony EX-1, HD. I know it's going to be slow, but it just seems slower ever since I switched to using an external hard drive vs. the internal.


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Rafael Amador
Re: New external HD = slower rendering??
on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:22:24 pm

[Alec Beard] "The footage is from a Sony EX-1,"
EX-1 is just 35Mbps?
Are you rendering/exporting back to EX-1?
That makes slow the rendering whatever system you have.
Export to something different (intraframe) unless you are bounded to export to that codec.
With EX-1 and a FW 800 you can render to the external HD.
AS Jerry points another HD for the render files would be the perfect solution.
rafael



http://www.nagavideo.com


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Alec Beard
Re: New external HD = slower rendering??
on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:39:48 pm

So I could buy another external hard drive. Is there a way to use one external drive and the internal drive? Or is that not recommended?

How would I split up the files if I were to get two hard drives?


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Zane Barker
Re: New external HD = slower rendering??
on Nov 28, 2009 at 4:22:12 am

Also what were you previously using for a your media drive so we better compare.



There are no "technical solutions" to your "artistic problems".
Don't let technology get in the way of your creativity!



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Jerry Hofmann
Re: New external HD = slower rendering??
on Nov 28, 2009 at 12:20:28 pm

Also make sure the drive is formatted Mac OS extended... But FW 800 drives are slower than an internal or external SATA, especially if they are rendering to the same drive the media is stored on. I think it's about 30% faster to render to a drive that doesn't store the source media.. copies faster too.

Jerry

Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things.

8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17" MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX Cinema Displays


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Alec Beard
Re: New external HD = slower rendering??
on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:08:37 pm

So if I wanted to use my external for storage and internal for rendering (or vice versa), that would speed it up? Would you recommend doing that? Would I just go to system settings and make the audio and video rendering happen somewhere else?


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Michael Sacci
Re: New external HD = slower rendering??
on Nov 28, 2009 at 6:58:54 pm

One more clarification needed.

When you say "internal" are you meaning the system drive, or another HD that you for media?

No media should go on the system drive.

Best solution on a tower is to get eSata card and then eSata drives (may externals have eSata and FW800 ports and eSata screams compared to FW800,



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Jerry Hofmann
Re: New external HD = slower rendering??
on Nov 29, 2009 at 4:27:17 am

Yeah, it might speed things up alright, but it should NOT be the same disk as your startup disk. So you must be using a MacPro to do this right, and it should be another internal drive. Which would be faster than a FireWire drive any day as it's a SATA connection, not FireWire.

Jerry

Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things.

8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17" MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX Cinema Displays


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Alec Beard
Re: New external HD = slower rendering??
on Nov 29, 2009 at 5:31:31 am

Hey Jerry, thanks for the help. So G5 wouldn't work?

I guess my best option is to buy a SATA card for my G-Drive?

Thanks again,
Alec


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Rafael Amador
Re: New external HD = slower rendering??
on Nov 29, 2009 at 10:30:03 am

Hi Alec,
You have to consider your G5's second disk as an external one (and with a fast SATA connexion). Connect your FW 800, and you will have a very nice rig:
- One disk for the System and Applications.
- One disk for media.
- One disk for render files.
Great.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com


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