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Peter Corbett
In my Fourth Hour of editing with FCP.......
on Nov 10, 2009 at 6:49:23 am

After having major hassles editing an AVC-Intra project in Premiere, I fast trcked my FCS3 installation today and am attempting to edit a conmmercial as my first job on Mac. (I'm Windows-trained as well to make it a double PITA) so I'm having to learn Mac-speak as well.

I loaded the 1080i AVC-Intra clips (from a HPX2700 Varicam) but I can't get real time playback via my Decklink HD Extreme on an extenal monitor. It scrubs and updates and plays in the viewers in FCP, but no RT output to the HD-SDI monitor. Some of these same clips played perfectly in Win/CS4, but is it a Final cut thing why they won't play?

Peter Corbett
Powerhouse Productions
http://www.php.com.au


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Zane Barker
Re: In my Fourth Hour of editing with FCP.......
on Nov 10, 2009 at 7:14:17 am

[Peter Corbett] "I can't get real time playback"

What are your sequence settings?
What type of media drive are you using?



There are no "technical solutions" to your "artistic problems".
Don't let technology get in the way of your creativity!



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Peter Corbett
Re: In my Fourth Hour of editing with FCP.......
on Nov 10, 2009 at 7:34:32 am

I've got the sequence set as Blackmagic 10-bit 1080i 50. I'm using three 1tb Seagate NS Enterprise drives striped RAID-0. The material is 100mbit AVC-Intra (10-bit)

Peter Corbett
Powerhouse Productions
http://www.php.com.au


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Shane Ross
Re: In my Fourth Hour of editing with FCP.......
on Nov 10, 2009 at 7:25:13 am

Your VIEW>VIDEO PLAYBACK (view menu, VIDEO PLAYBACK) setting needs to match your clip settings...exactly. Best way is to choose an EASY SETUP and that does things automatically. AVCI, guessing then that you captured as ProRes?



Shane



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Peter Corbett
Re: In my Fourth Hour of editing with FCP.......
on Nov 10, 2009 at 7:36:58 am

[Shane Ross] "Your VIEW>VIDEO PLAYBACK (view menu, VIDEO PLAYBACK) setting needs to match your clip settings...exactly. Best way is to choose an EASY SETUP and that does things automatically. AVCI, guessing then that you captured as ProRes? "

I used the Log and Transfer tool but I didn't notice any settings for ProRes. I'll give your display settings a check-out. Someone said I need to install a Mac plugin from Panasonic's site, but I'm not sure if this is necessary with FCP7.



Peter Corbett
Powerhouse Productions
http://www.php.com.au


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Bob Flood
Re: In my Fourth Hour of editing with FCP.......
on Nov 10, 2009 at 4:24:52 pm

Peter

Ahhh another ex discreet edit editor joins the "herd"!

you are in good company, sir!

as shane said, there are presets for all the tapeless formats. the tricky bits are if its 59.97, 60, 30, 29.97 etc. if the framerates in your view setings dont match the media, you will not see real time playback.

When you log and transfer file based media into fcp7/fcs3, the media gets a new "wrapper" that is quicktime freindly. Its still some variation of mpeg/gop video, just one that FCP likes.


You should choose Prores 422 in your render settings. For best results make the Compressor in your sequence settings Pro Res 422 (it does not need to be HQ). this will make any native exports pro res as well.

does this help?

"I like video because its so fast!"

Bob Flood
Greer & Associates, Inc.


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Peter Corbett
Re: In my Fourth Hour of editing with FCP.......
on Nov 10, 2009 at 8:42:49 pm

[Bob Flood] "Peter. Ahhh another ex discreet edit editor joins the "herd"! you are in good company, sir!"


Hi Bob,

How are you going? Yes another editor* here. Imagine if edit had survived and developed until now? Would have been amazing I'm sure.
Thanks for the tips. I got RT on the HD-SDI going with the ProRes settings. I hadn't tried that as I always have worked in 10-bit uncompressed. I guess I can still out a final export version in 10-bit uncompressed QuickTime after the project is done?

Peter Corbett
Powerhouse Productions
http://www.php.com.au


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Dennis Radeke
Re: In my Fourth Hour of editing with FCP.......
on Nov 10, 2009 at 11:30:19 am

Adobe just posted a Premiere Pro 4.2 update which includes native AVC-Intra editing for CS4



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Peter Corbett
Re: In my Fourth Hour of editing with FCP.......
on Nov 10, 2009 at 12:00:03 pm

Thanks Dennis, but it's 4.2 I've had these problems with.

Peter Corbett
Powerhouse Productions
http://www.php.com.au


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Dennis Radeke
Re: In my Fourth Hour of editing with FCP.......
on Nov 10, 2009 at 2:57:18 pm

Peter,

I would love to hear about these problems, though perhaps this isn't the right forum for it. I'm editing AVC-I on my laptop right now with little difficulty.

you can find me at the Adobe Premiere Pro forum - I don't really monitor the Creative Cow Premiere Pro forum much.

http://forums.adobe.com/community/premiere/premierepro_current


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: In my Fourth Hour of editing with FCP.......
on Nov 10, 2009 at 4:40:15 pm

[Peter Corbett] "In my Fourth Hour of editing with FCP......."

Four calling birds? 3 French Hens? Two turtle doves, and a partridge in a pear tree?

You shouldn't be working in Uncompressed 10bit, you should be working in a ProResHQ sequence with your video output set to 10bit.

Jeremy


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Peter Corbett
Re: In my Fourth Hour of editing with FCP.......
on Nov 10, 2009 at 8:50:17 pm

Yep working now Jeremy. Cheers.

Peter Corbett
Powerhouse Productions
http://www.php.com.au


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