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Alan Lacey
Blu-Ray for replication
on Oct 29, 2009 at 5:28:18 pm

Having just finished my first serious Blu-Ray project I thought I'd report back my experiences and ask advice for the future.

No problems shooting/editing. Shot XDcamHD&EX edited Prores. Exported mpeg and aac.

As we didn't need any menus I burnt test blu-rays via Toast and they worked flawlessly.

I then came to try and get them replicated and would have preferred glass mastering as we were thinking about 1000 in the first instance.

The replication house told us that the submitted disk was unsuitable for mastering and none of their in-house engineering could make it so. So we had to go for duplication.

Can I ask what BD authoring packages those of you that are making Blu-ray disks in quantity are using as I'd really like to get this dupication issue sorted before we're ready again.

With thanks

Alan

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eric pautsch
Re: Blu-Ray for replication
on Oct 29, 2009 at 8:13:29 pm

You need to use either Scenarist, Blu Print or Do Studio for titles that need to be replicated. Use also need to make sure you're using a spec compliant encoder. Unfortunately, there will be a major expense on your part to do this. Best to have it done by a seasoned authoring facility. Also duplication is not a good idea for larger quantities. You can be guaranteed they will not play on everyone's player.

Another option is Blu Streak which will create a CMF image for replication:

http://blustreak.dvdafteredit.com/blustreak-premaster-overview

Read this article:

http://magazine.creativecow.net/article/bluray-today-and-beyond





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Arnie Schlissel
Re: Blu-Ray for replication
on Oct 30, 2009 at 4:06:43 am

[eric pautsch] "Also duplication is not a good idea for larger quantities. You can be guaranteed they will not play on everyone's player."

Even the big budget titles from Hollywood come with a little note that they're not guaranteed to play on all players.

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walter biscardi
Re: Blu-Ray for replication
on Oct 30, 2009 at 4:08:25 am

[Arnie Schlissel] "Even the big budget titles from Hollywood come with a little note that they're not guaranteed to play on all players. "

That's a CYA statement since BluRay players require the end use to actually update them from time to time. Not sure how many consumers figure that one out. This is one reason I like the Samsung players so much. You can put the update on a USB stick and run it that way.



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eric pautsch
Re: Blu-Ray for replication
on Oct 30, 2009 at 6:03:59 am

Ha Ha!! Yeah...I should have said you can REALLY guarantee they won't play on every player.



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Alan Lacey
Re: Blu-Ray for replication
on Oct 30, 2009 at 9:53:23 am

Thanks guys.

The one thing I did know about BD was that there is no guarentee about compatibility with players so I also packaged a SD D5 with each BD disk.

The above is useful information. Who know's whether I'll get another serious BD project but if I do I'll have done my homework by then.

Alan

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Neil Sadwelkar
Re: Blu-Ray for replication
on Oct 30, 2009 at 10:17:46 am

Bruce Nazarian has compiled a lot of useful information on Blu-ray for small productions at
http://www.idmadvda.org

There's a good intro to licensing as well.

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eric pautsch
Re: Blu-Ray for replication
on Oct 30, 2009 at 12:29:38 pm

Good job Alan!

Here are some good books to read:

http://www.amazon.com/Blu-ray-Disc-Demystified-Jim-Taylor/dp/0071590927/ref...

http://www.amazon.com/High-Definition-DVD-Handbook-Producing-Blu-Ray/dp/007...

Paid $100 for the second one when it first came out...now its $8..Eeek!!



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walter biscardi
Re: Blu-Ray for replication
on Oct 30, 2009 at 12:37:52 pm

[eric pautsch] "Paid $100 for the second one when it first came out...now its $8..Eeek!! "

Paid $1,000 for the Sony BDP-S1 when it came out. Now the Samsung is under $200 most places and I would not be surprised to see a $99 or less BluRay player on "Black Friday" this year.



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