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salah Elfalahi
What's the deference between Konna 3 and LHi
on Oct 21, 2009 at 7:36:42 pm

Hi all
My main reason to buy one of them is to monitor color grading and down scale full HD to SD to get the best possible quality. i never work with higher than full HD. is LHi enough for me ? and if you could be kind with me and tell me what's the deference between Kona 3 and LHi.
By the way i went through their website but i couldn't comprehend most of the terms as i never worked with uncompressed stuff....
thanks very much
salah


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jonathan lakser
Re: What's the deference between Konna 3 and LHi
on Oct 21, 2009 at 7:47:50 pm

kona 3 will only do analog audio monitoring if you buy the kbox


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John Fishback
Re: What's the deference between Konna 3 and LHi
on Oct 21, 2009 at 7:58:35 pm

I'm not an expert, but I believe the main difference is the Kona 3 has mainly digital ins and outs - HD-SDI & SDI for video and AES for audio (although, there are two analog audio RCA outs and a component/composit/s-video out); and the LHi adds more analog I/O and HDMI. The Kona 3 can also deal with Dual-Link and 2k.

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walter biscardi
Re: What's the deference between Konna 3 and LHi
on Oct 21, 2009 at 8:06:31 pm

Kona 3 has a few more inputs and outputs.

Kona 3 supports 2k workflows which the LHi does not.

Kona 3 support Dual Link uncompressed HD which the LHi does not.

For the base features, they are pretty much the same. Up / Down / Cross Conversion are standard on both.

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salah Elfalahi
Re: What's the deference between Konna 3 and LHi
on Oct 21, 2009 at 9:05:56 pm

thanks walter
now i understand that i dont need kana 3 as long as i dont work with 2k and LHi is enough to down convert full HD to SD. but, i only have Sony HVR-M15AE HDV Deck (fire wire) input, what else do i need to be able to capture from the LHi card into my deck (as far as i know there is no fire wire output from LHi ?
thanks


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walter biscardi
Re: What's the deference between Konna 3 and LHi
on Oct 21, 2009 at 9:09:57 pm

If you truly only have Firewire input to your deck, you will not have any need for the LHi as that deck will destroy any quality gains by compressing your footage back to HDV. There is no Firewire output on the LHi, only via the Mac.

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salah Elfalahi
Re: What's the deference between Konna 3 and LHi
on Oct 21, 2009 at 9:41:00 pm

Please Walter, what do you understand from this info below which talk about my Deck Video input/output, as i'm only using firewire so far;
Video input/output
RCA x 1 / RCA x 1
[1Vp-p , 75ohm unbalanced, sync negative
Sync signal : 0.286Vp-p (50i / NTSC) , 0.3Vp-p (60i / PAL)
Burst signal : 0.286Vp-p (50i / NTSC) , 0.3Vp-p (60i / PAL)
S-video input/output
Mini-DIN 4pin x 2
Y : 1Vp-p , 75ohm unbalanced, sync negative
Sync signal : 0.286Vp-p (60i / NTSC) , 0.3Vp-p (50i / PAL)
Chrominance signal : 0.286Vp-p (60i / NTSC),(burst, 75ohm) , 0.3Vp-p (50i / PAL),(burst, 75ohm)
Component video output
RCA pin x 3
Output at 480i NTSC
With[BETACAM] selected in [480i LEVEL] of the [IN/OUT REC] menu
Y : 1 Vp-p (0.286Vp-p sync negative, output impedance 75ohm unbalanced)
Pb / Cb / B-Y , Pr / Cr / R-Y : 0.7Vp-p (output impedance 75ohm unbalanced) (75% color bar with 7.5% IRE setup)
With[SMPTE] selected in [480i LEVEL] of the [IN/OUT REC] menu
Y : 1 Vp-p (0.3Vp-p sync negative, output impedance 75ohm unbalanced)
Pb / Cb/B-Y , Pr / Cr / R-Y : 0.7Vp-p (output impedance 75ohm unbalanced)(100% color bar with no setup)
Output with other settings
Y : 1 Vp-p (output impedance 75ohm unbalanced)
Pb / Cb / B-Y , Pr / Cr / R-Y : 0.7Vp-p (output impedance 75ohm unbalanced)(100% color bar with no setup)
480i / 480p :
Y : with 0.3Vp-p sync negative
1080i / 720p :
Y / Pb / Pr : with 0.6Vp-p 3-level sync
i.LINK
6-pin
Digital uncompressed output
-
Phones
-
LANC
Stereo mini-minijack ( 2.5 mm)
Control S
Stereo minijack ( 3.5 mm)
Audio input
RCA x2,stereo
Input level : -10dBu, input impedance: min. 47 ohm unbalanced, max Input level : +18dBu (approx. 6Vrms) 60i , +16dBu (approx. 5Vrms)50i
Audio output
RCA x2,stereo
impedance : max. 1k/ohm unbalanced, Output level : -10dBu (=full bit -20dB) impedance 47 ohm unbalanced 60i, -10dBu (=full bit -18dB) impedance 47 ohm unbalanced 50i
LCD monitor
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walter biscardi
Re: What's the deference between Konna 3 and LHi
on Oct 21, 2009 at 10:02:33 pm

You have a choice of Composite analog or Firewire for input.

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salah Elfalahi
Re: What's the deference between Konna 3 and LHi
on Oct 21, 2009 at 10:21:56 pm

so LHi will do for me


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Shane Ross
Re: What's the deference between Konna 3 and LHi
on Oct 21, 2009 at 10:54:18 pm

COMPOSITE out to the HDV deck? Ugh...yuck. That will look like CRUD. Firewire out...PRINT TO VIDEO. That will get you better results. ONly the 1500 deck has a good input option, SDI...but even then, there is some loss.



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walter biscardi
Re: What's the deference between Konna 3 and LHi
on Oct 22, 2009 at 9:47:39 am

[salah Elfalahi] "so LHi will do for me"

Yes on the composite video but that won't be HD. It'll be the worst possible quality SD you can record to tape.

For HD, your only option is Firewire.



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salah Elfalahi
Re: What's the deference between Konna 3 and LHi
on Oct 22, 2009 at 7:53:49 pm

┘Ćthank you all, really appreciate your time
I'll forget about the capture card then, cause my main reason is to convert full HD to SD and I can't afford buying the 1500 deck with the kona card. I'll stick to compressor, as it's the only option left for me, and print to tape using my deck.
thanks very much


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