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John LeBlanc
DVC Pro HD vs. 10 bit uncompressed
on Oct 18, 2009 at 1:58:43 am

I'm editing footage shot on DVC Pro HD and edited on a sequence that is DVC Pro HD.

Will switching the sequence codec to 10 bit uncompressed result in better or worse image quality?

Thanks.


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walter biscardi
Re: DVC Pro HD vs. 10 bit uncompressed
on Oct 18, 2009 at 2:04:36 am

better and your data rate will jump from about 8 to 20MB/s to upwards of 250MB/s and higher. You need VERY fast hard drive arrays to run 10bit uncompressed HD that should be rated for a minimum of 325MB/s.

We edit almost solely in ProRes these days.

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Rafael Amador
Re: DVC Pro HD vs. 10 bit uncompressed
on Oct 18, 2009 at 2:11:19 am

Changing your sequence codec to Uncompress won't improve the picture, but will improve the results of any rendering because you avoid re-compression. Color Correction, Effects, Graphics only when exported to Uncompress can hold his full quality.
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John LeBlanc
Re: DVC Pro HD vs. 10 bit uncompressed
on Oct 18, 2009 at 2:23:31 am

Thanks.


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John LeBlanc
Re: DVC Pro HD vs. 10 bit uncompressed
on Oct 18, 2009 at 2:24:23 am

Is 8 bit uncompressed better than DVC Pro HD?


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Rafael Amador
Re: DVC Pro HD vs. 10 bit uncompressed
on Oct 18, 2009 at 2:33:28 am

Yes.
is like DVCPro50/HD but without DCT compression.
If you want to go to a better codec without increasing your files size, Prores is your best option.
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walter biscardi
Re: DVC Pro HD vs. 10 bit uncompressed
on Oct 18, 2009 at 2:38:19 am

[John LeBlanc] "Is 8 bit uncompressed better than DVC Pro HD?"

you still need a high speed array to run 8bit uncompressed HD. You cannot improve the quality of your original footage, you can only improve the way it looks after processing.

That being said, we delivered in the neighborhood of 40 episodes of Good Eats in HD to the Food Network using solely a DVCPro HD workflow from start to finish. All the shows easily passed QC and looked amazing.


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Shane Ross
Re: DVC Pro HD vs. 10 bit uncompressed
on Oct 18, 2009 at 2:52:49 am

I have edited four discovery and History channel specials, all shot and edited DVCPRO HD. Delivered HDCAM masters, but output directly from DVCPRO HD timeline. With DVCPRO HD, you can work in that format from start to finish, full resolution, because the data rate is low. You cannot do the same with Uncompressed unless you have a LOT of high speed RAID storage. A LOT.

Now...PLANT EARTH was shot and edited DVCPRO HD. No doubt converted to Uncompressed at the end, for titles and graphics, but thats it.


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walter biscardi
Re: DVC Pro HD vs. 10 bit uncompressed
on Oct 18, 2009 at 12:48:39 pm

[Shane Ross] "Now...PLANT EARTH was shot and edited DVCPRO HD. No doubt converted to Uncompressed at the end, for titles and graphics, but thats it. "

And a TON of color enhancement as well. Had a great discussion with one of the editors at NAB a few years ago and he was telling me you would not believe what some of the original footage looked like due to daylight conditions and such.


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Rich Rubasch
Re: DVC Pro HD vs. 10 bit uncompressed
on Oct 18, 2009 at 10:24:32 pm

Hey Walter, when did you switch over to ProRes over DVCProHD? I always thought you were sticking with DVCProHD. Why the switch?

Curious.

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