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Steven Austin
virgin to 29.97p editing
on Sep 15, 2009 at 12:51:50 am


My client gave me a drive with Quicktime footage frpm P2 that was shot in true 29.97p, without a 3:2 pulldown (except for one clip). In addition to this, I need to access & intercut footage from a DVD TS file.

I am exporting the latter from MPGEG Streamclip to QT files.

There are three variables occuring here. Being that I've never worked this way before, can anyone recommend the best way to set up my FCP 6 project? Should I be exporting the TS file differently? How do I set up fro 29.97p with and without pulldown?

Working with: Mac pro quad core, six gigs of RAM, standard issue video card for a 2007 model.

Needless to say, client wants best quality possible. Please be gentle... I'm pretty new at this. ;)


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Michael Sacci
Re: virgin to 29.97p editing
on Sep 15, 2009 at 4:28:47 am

[Steven Austin] "true 29.97p, without a 3:2 pulldown "
29,97p has no pulldown, 3:2 pulldown is how 24p is recorded in an "over 60 signal". So what do you have true 29.97p or 24p recorded at 29.97?

When you rip the footage off the DVD you should rip it to the framerate that it was encoded as, 23.98 or 29.97 but as uncompressed. Then convert it in Compressor to match your sequence's frame rate and upconvert if needs but. Will have to do some test to get the best results.

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Steven Austin
Re: virgin to 29.97p editing
on Sep 15, 2009 at 5:57:33 am

Thanks Michael.

The majority of footage is "true" 29.97. So I set the FCP sequence at 29.97, and brought that footage in. It doesn't need to be rendered so I think the settings are ok.

r.e. the TS footage, I exported (via MPEG Streamclip) as uncompressed 29.97 -- yet that footage wants to be rendered when cut into timeline. I'm confused as to 1. why, and 2. what do I need to do in Compressor that I haven't already done by outputting through Streamclip?

All these rates and formats and codecs get more confusing by the week.
I await enlightenment and Alka Seltzer. Thanks!

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Chris Tompkins
Re: virgin to 29.97p editing
on Sep 15, 2009 at 11:33:33 am

Did u rip the DVD @ 720 by 480 or 640 by 480?
Is ur timeline square pix? or 720 by 486?

Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta

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Dave LaRonde
Re: virgin to 29.97p editing
on Sep 15, 2009 at 3:13:49 pm

Furthermore, the codec of that ripped footage has to match the codec of the progressive-scan footage.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Steven Austin
Re: virgin to 29.97p editing
on Sep 15, 2009 at 7:48:03 pm

I created a new project, imported production's QT footage and dropped a clip in the timeline. Matched the settings to clip, i.e.

frame size - 960 x 720
aspect ratio - HD 960 x 720 16:9 (did not offer sq. or rectangular)
pixel aspect ratio - HD 960 x 720
field dom. - none
editing timebase - 29.97
compression - DVCPRO HD 720p60

The majority of clips are in this format. Then I ripped the DVD
TS file in MPEG Streamclip. It defaulted to:

frame size 854 x 480
pixel aspect ratio - square
field dominance - 0
editing timebase 29.97
compression - Apple FCP uncompressed 8 bit 4:2:2

Should I re-export, attempting to match the DVCPRO HD 720p60 codec? Would I then change HDTV 720p? The frame size defaults to 1280 x 720 in Streamclip.

In FCP settings, there is no 960 x 720 for frame size. I need to match the ripped DVD clips to the production footage, which comprises 75% of the project.

Very confused...

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