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David Komer
Time to upgrade?
on Sep 8, 2009 at 7:24:12 am

We have a project which is in the last stages of finishing, and are thinking of upgrading to FCS 3 from FCS 2 in order that the colorist be able to take advantage of new features.

Is there *any* problem opening the old project after the upgrade?

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Shane Ross
Re: Time to upgrade?
on Sep 8, 2009 at 8:51:58 am

No problem upgrading here. But what new features do you need to take advantage of?



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David Komer
Re: Time to upgrade?
on Sep 8, 2009 at 8:57:20 am

Thanks.

Mainly this:
"Seamless round-tripping" - http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/whats-new.html#color

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Shane Ross
Re: Time to upgrade?
on Sep 8, 2009 at 9:20:54 am

I know what's new...I am using the new Color. I was just wondering what features specifically you think you need. The new Color added some things, broke some others.



Shane



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David Komer
Re: Time to upgrade?
on Sep 8, 2009 at 9:32:48 am

That sounds frightening! What did it break?! (I haven't used Color- but my goal is to make it as pleasant as possible for the colorist when they come in).

The film is a PAL SD project, involving mainly DV and still photos (with keyframed movement/scaling). The ability to preserve the sequence as-is (and not have to deal with each shot separately) seems like a gigantic feature to me, but maybe I'm missing something...?

Another thing to consider is that we may want to do some NTSC -> PAL conversions in compressor before bringing those shots into final cut, and also generating (from the finished master) MPEG-2 & H.264 for DVD and Internet distribution... does the new compressor work much faster/better for this (as opposed to not only the old compressor, but say procoder on windows)?

Those NTSC shots look OK for the most part on the PAL timeline though... guess final cut is doing some sort of decent native conversion? :)

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Shane Ross
Re: Time to upgrade?
on Sep 8, 2009 at 9:56:57 am

[David Komer] "That sounds frightening! What did it break?!"

Tracking information mainly, like scale and position. If you have 3 videos layered and you have them in certain locations (for example the "24" look of multiple windows, or two videos layered on a background). Send to FCP, then send back and the position or scale will be off.

[David Komer] "The film is a PAL SD project, involving mainly DV and still photos (with keyframed movement/scaling)."

Well then..don't use Color 1.5...

[David Komer] " does the new compressor work much faster/better for this (as opposed to not only the old compressor, but say procoder on windows)? "

Nope....slower in fact. Many of us noted that.

[David Komer] "Those NTSC shots look OK for the most part on the PAL timeline though... guess final cut is doing some sort of decent native conversion? :) "

Not a good one. It is adding frames, and mostly in the wrong way. Gotta do a GOOD conversion before you output your delivery requirements. Hardware like Terranex, or software like Compressor.



Shane



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David Komer
Re: Time to upgrade?
on Sep 8, 2009 at 10:08:30 am

Wow... shocking!

So I guess we'll wait then... last question (for now)- is output from compressor better at least, even if it runs slower?

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Shane Ross
Re: Time to upgrade?
on Sep 8, 2009 at 6:10:38 pm

Some people notice that gamma issues are fixed, some say they haven't been. In my world, things look the same, I don't have issues with the footage I have and workflows I use. So Compressor is a huge disappointment, as it is the same old same old...only SLOWER. Well, more options as to formats and stuff, but quality is the same, and it is slower.

Sigh.


Shane



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