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Darren Burgess
5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Oct 19, 2015 at 11:07:49 pm

Hi,

As the title says, I have the camera set to record video at 1920x1080 24fps, but when I upload the video files to my Mac the video appears to be 1280x720.

This is a real problem for me and I cannot figure out why it is happening.

Any ideas? Rookie mistake somewhere no doubt, but I can't figure it out!


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Bob Dix
Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Nov 6, 2015 at 2:02:15 am
Last Edited By Bob Dix on Nov 6, 2015 at 5:41:45 am

Check the Mac.

Works well on PC, NO ISSUES IN 7 YEARS WITH Canon 5D Mark II using PAL

Darren,

I presume you are from the USA PAL vs. NTSC[edit]
PAL usually has 576 visible lines compared with 480 lines with NTSC, meaning that PAL has a 20% higher resolution. Both PAL and NTSC have a higher frame rate than film, 24 frames per second. Most TV output for PAL and NTSC use interlaced frames meaning that even lines update on one frame and odd lines update on the next frame. Interlacing frames gives a smoother motion with half the frame rate, the downside is with scene changes. NTSC is used with a fps of 60i or 30p whereas PAL generally uses 50i or 25p; both use a high enough frame rate to give the illusion of fluid motion

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Bob Dix
Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Nov 6, 2015 at 3:12:52 am
Last Edited By Bob Dix on Nov 6, 2015 at 5:44:08 am

I presume you have set Premiere Pro Sequence 1 to take the Digital DSLR to 1080p
setting.I am PAL here and I have no setting for 1280 x 720 at 24fps.

Frankly, I would not use the cinema setting of 24fps which is the running speed of 35mm film. I come from a cinema background, you will not get the quality of color , sharpness of film, and I see no quality improvement in doing that, unfortunately film is nearly dead.1_capture1x.jpg

The use of 24 fps would be of use if you intend to copy to 35 mm film ????????????? as all projectors run at that speed.

Good luck............

If you are in the USA use 30 fps, the video will look very good.

Ps. We have 100's projects at 1920 x 1080 p running at 25 fps for blu-ray and it is stunning video. I can set the 5 D Mark II at 24 fps at 1920 x 1080p and that is what it is, provided you change the setting for the Timeline Sequence 1 in Premiere . > Check out >>>>> https://forums.adobe.com/community/premiere

And ask them.

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Darren Burgess
Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Nov 6, 2015 at 11:15:47 am

Hi,

I am in Australia.
I have the camera set to 1920x1080, but when I upload the footage to (any) computer it is at 1280x720. This can be confirmed by importing to an application like After Effects where you can clearly see the size difference as well as the file info that can be seen from the hard drive. I've tried 25fps but it still does the same.

Thanks for the heads up on 24 vs 25fps tho


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Bob Dix
Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Nov 6, 2015 at 11:21:10 pm
Last Edited By Bob Dix on Nov 6, 2015 at 11:55:57 pm

Hi Darren,
That is very odd. Try the Adobe Forum link and possibly Premiere Pro Forum. I doubt the Mac set up is the problem, but, it is here, when we use anamorphic ie. "Tape"

See if you can e-mail Ann Bens, she is Dutch and a very bright cookie, on Premiere Pro Forum.Or ask a question . Other wise phone Ramon Daez, Canon Technical Manager, SYDNEY.for advice on the Canon. I do not think it is the problem. In my camera the movie recording sizes are
1920x1080 25
1920x1080 24
640x480 25

720p
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This chart shows the most common display resolutions, 720p being one of the 16:9 formats shown in dark green.
720p (a.k.a. HD) is a progressive HDTV signal format with 720 horizontal lines and an aspect ratio (AR) of 16:9 (1.78:1). All major HDTV broadcasting standards (such as SMPTE 292M) include a 720p format which has a resolution of 1280×720; however, there are other formats, including HDV Playback and AVCHD for camcorders, which use 720p images with the standard HDTV resolution.

The number 720 stands for the 720 horizontal scan lines of image display resolution (also known as 720 pixels of vertical resolution), while the letter p stands for progressive scan (i.e. non-interlaced).[1] When broadcast at 60[note 1] frames per second, 720p features the highest temporal resolution possible under the ATSC and DVB standards. The term assumes a widescreen aspect ratio of 16:9, thus implying a resolution of 1280×720 px (0.9 megapixels).

720i (720 lines interlaced) is an erroneous term found in numerous sources and publications. Typically, it is a typographical error in which the author is referring to the 720p HDTV format. However, in some cases it is incorrectly presented as an actual alternative format to 720p.[3] No proposed or existing broadcast standard permits 720 interlaced lines in a video frame at any frame rate.[4]

Why Premier Pro would be changing the size to a different pre-
set, that you should have set in premiere Pro for the Sequence</b> is a mystery.It looks like standard widescreen digital and not widescreen high definition ?

Reset the Sequence properties in PP to 1920x1080 @25 fps and see what happens/

We used Apple Macs and we had issues ?????? Never with PC's.

When I set my Canon 5 D mark II up to do what you do it just does not happen, the screen dump I sent you shows that. If you can see it .

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Darren Burgess
Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Nov 7, 2015 at 1:55:47 am

I don't think the issue is in Premiere Pro; the problem starts at the import. Once uploaded, it states in the file properties that it is 1280x720, so you would expect it to be that size in PP as that is actually what is being imported. I just don't understand why when I have 1920x1080 selected in the camera that the image is 720p when uploaded from the card. Would card speed affect the resolution size? It's only 30MB/sec which I know isn't ideal.


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Bob Dix
Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Nov 7, 2015 at 3:49:56 am
Last Edited By Bob Dix on Nov 7, 2015 at 4:01:44 am

I use only ScanDisk Extreme IV UDMA @ 45mb/s but, their Down market Ultra II 30Mb/s takes the same file size , speed seems to make no difference.

Just put your card into the card reader in the Apple and see what happens ?

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Bob Dix
Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Nov 7, 2015 at 12:35:38 am
Last Edited By Bob Dix on Nov 7, 2015 at 1:18:53 am

Open as New Project in PP

>. Set New Sequence Presets
> Digital SLR (ie.,Canon 5 D Mark II)

>1080p not 1280p
>DSLR 1080p 24
or
DSLR 1080p 25

And click OK .9422_sequencesettings1mb.jpg.zip

Note :
There are Presets for AVCHD 720p x1280h
and Digital SLr 720p24 x1280h This is not for Canon 5D Mark II
and other.


Are you choosing the wrong Preset ?

Regards,

Bob

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AUSTRALIA


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Darren Burgess
Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Nov 7, 2015 at 1:56:33 am

No the problem seems to be with the file resolution that is actually uploaded as it is 720p before it even gets to PP


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Bob Dix
Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Nov 7, 2015 at 3:28:29 am
Last Edited By Bob Dix on Nov 7, 2015 at 3:40:39 am

Huuuuuum,

Understand, cannot help anymore, when I take Mov H 264 @ 1920 x 1080p 25 fps video off camera into Windows i7 Professional, the correct size comes off the camera. Looks like Apple Mac may be doing some thing it should not do.

Hope you can work it out.If your Apple Mac Monitor is only 1280 x 720 ,it may be trying to automatically downsize video ?


Let me know when you nail it.

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AUSTRALIA


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Bob Dix
Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Nov 7, 2015 at 4:39:20 am

Darren,

The first Canon 5 D Mark II's released on the Australian market about 5 years ago had NTSC (American settings). It could be your camera may have been one of these and the Canon Driver download which should have been installed to correct this was not or was corrupted. Just worth a check ? What the settings were
I cannot remember.
The downloads amazingly fixed the issue without sending the camera body to Canon Technical Service in Sydney.

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Bob Dix
Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Nov 7, 2015 at 10:43:34 pm

1. Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
Ann Bens ACP/MVPsAnn Bens Nov 7, 2015 8:59 PM (in response to Bob Dix)
Upload a small clip if you please.

Darren,

This is a request from Ann Bens Via Adobe Premiere Pro Forums, hope you can work it out.

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Bob Dix
Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Nov 7, 2015 at 5:19:55 am

Darren,

The original Canon 5D Mark II's about 5 years ago came only with NTSC American video speeds, which was fixed by a Firmware Driver Download from Canon's web site.

https://www.canon.com.au/en-AU/Personal/Support-Help/Support-News/Firmware-...

This Firmware Update fixed more than NTSC to Pal operating and made the camera very easy to use for Australian Broadcast other wise you did a speed conversion on the timeline .

This may be your problem.Phone Canon to see if your camera is current.

Freelance Imaging & Video
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Todd Terry
Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Nov 7, 2015 at 5:37:28 am

I do not know what this problem is, but I can tell you what it is not...

This is not a Premiere issue. Premiere does not in any way shape or form change the resolution, size, or properties of a clip that is imported... no matter what your project settings or timeline specs are. It simply cannot happen, it doesn't work that way. Files are imported "as is," they are not changed, transcoded, or modified in any way by Premiere through the act of importing them.

Even if you had a Premiere sequence set to the lowest possible frame size and resolution, and with some different frame rate, when you import, say, a 1080 23.976 clip it will still be a 1080 23.976 clip when you import it, and it will still have those specs after you put it on a timeline.

If you have these "incorrect" file specs not only in Premiere, not only on the one computer, and on multiple ways of viewing the clip (say, just watching it in something like VLC player), then that is what the clip specs are... nothing is happening to it.

I'd say it is obviously a camera issue... I'm 99% sure of that. Either the record specs are not set to what you think they are, or there is a camera problem that is causing the clips to be recorded at specs that are different than what your settings are.

T2

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Todd Terry
Creative Director
Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
fantasticplastic.com



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Bob Dix
Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Nov 7, 2015 at 6:54:43 am

Well, Todd reckons it is a camera issue, I did mention that.?

Freelance Imaging & Video
AUSTRALIA


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jamieson moore
Re: 5D Mk2 set to 1920x1080 24fps but files are 1280x720
on Jan 9, 2017 at 10:21:26 am

Hi There,

Did you ever figure out this problem? It's happening to me!


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