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Simon Cox
Canon C300 shooting Canon Log and setting Zebras?
on Jul 23, 2013 at 6:12:07 pm

If shooting 'Canon Log' with 'view assist' on what have people found a good
setting for Zebras are? (after good exposure for skin tones shooting exterior).

I know that Canon Log makes the viewfinder image darker and flatter with the
view assist offering some correction to this, but where do you now judge
exposure?

After attending a F5/55 training day at Visuals and learning about shooting in S
Log2 it would appear that the image in our viewfinders is going to look
underexposed so correct zebras appear essential. I was wondering if the same
applies to the C300 and the relationship between Canon Log, view assist, and
exposure.

Simon Cox

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Todd Terry
Re: Canon C300 shooting Canon Log and setting Zebras?
on Jul 23, 2013 at 7:00:50 pm

[Simon Cox] " ...but where do you now judge
exposure?"


I shoot C300 but honestly I never turn the zebras on (I've just never liked working with zebras).

If you are shooting C-log I think it's pretty essential to judge exposure by the waveform monitor. I'll often toggle it on and off when shooting with other profiles, but when shooting C-log I'll typically just turn it on and leave it on. It's the best/easiest way to guarantee good exposure.

T2

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Simon Cox
Re: Canon C300 shooting Canon Log and setting Zebras?
on Jul 24, 2013 at 2:30:52 pm

Thanks Todd.

I've got quite used to Zebras over the years but with a lot of cameras once the viewfinder is set up correctly I don't need them on. However I'll be using an external viewfinder with the C300 and don't want to fill my screen with extra info, but it may be the only way.

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Todd Terry
Re: Canon C300 shooting Canon Log and setting Zebras?
on Jul 24, 2013 at 4:18:10 pm

[Simon Cox] "However I'll be using an external viewfinder with the C300..."

Well Simon, don't take this as absolute gospel without checking, but you might be out of luck there.

I don't think there is a way to display all the viewfinder information (zebras, peaking, all the various data) on an external monitor or viewfinder... I believe all that info will only appear on the camera's native LCD screen or in the eyepiece viewfinder. I'm not aware of a way to pump that out to anything other than those two.

Maybe I'm wrong... actually I hope I am because I can foresee an occasional need to do that. Although it's never really come up here before because we almost always prefer external monitors "clean" so I haven't explored to see if there's a way to turn on the on-screen data with external sources. It's certainly worth checking your camera menus and the manual to see. I have a shoot in about an hour and I'll poke around in the menu if I have a chance.

T2

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Simon Cox
Re: Canon C300 shooting Canon Log and setting Zebras?
on Jul 25, 2013 at 9:22:32 am

Cheers Tod, actually I think you are spot on about that. I was thinking of using an Alphtaron EVF and setting the Zebras from the EVF itself.

Looks like I'm not shooting Canon Log now so life should be a tadge easier, but handy to know for the future.

I have to hire the camera so not much time to play around with it.

Thanks.

Simon Cox
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Todd Terry
Re: Canon C300 shooting Canon Log and setting Zebras?
on Jul 25, 2013 at 4:28:57 pm

Simon... sounds like it's not an issue for you anymore, but for what it's worth....

I've looked at it a bit on my camera menu while on two shoots since I last posted... unless I'm completely missing something, there appears to be no way to pump out the on-screen display info to any external viewfinder or other monitoring source. If you want to use the zebras, I think you have to use the on-board monitors.

I know for a fact that if you toggle on the "view assist" mode when shooting C-log there is no way for that view to appear on an external monitor, it is viewfinder and on-board LCD only... so apparently that is the same protocol for the other info as well.

T2

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Simon Cox
Re: Canon C300 shooting Canon Log and setting Zebras?
on Jul 25, 2013 at 8:11:46 pm

Many thanks for checking that all out for me Todd, it's what I thought. Maybe a firmware upgrade one day will give those options.

We shall see.

Simon Cox
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Todd Terry
Re: Canon C300 shooting Canon Log and setting Zebras?
on Jul 25, 2013 at 9:27:29 pm

I know there is a firmware upgrade that I haven't bothered to install yet.

I do know that it affects one viewfinder function, allowing the magnification area to be selectable rather than just a center punch... maybe it addresses some of these other issues, too. I'll give it a try at first opp.

T2

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Simon Cox
Re: Canon C300 shooting Canon Log and setting Zebras?
on Jul 26, 2013 at 4:28:44 pm

Hi Todd, I picked up a C300 from a facilities company and they have the latest firmware installed. I had a quick play and it looks like I can output all the info from the camera's monitor to my seperate EVF via the SDI output. I will double check but it's looking OK.

Simon Cox
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Todd Terry
Re: Canon C300 shooting Canon Log and setting Zebras?
on Jul 26, 2013 at 5:23:50 pm

Cool, awesome.

No doubt that is a result of that recent firmware update, as I know it dealt with that viewfinder magnification feature as well.

Hopefully the OCD output is not limited to HD-SDI only, as well.

T2

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Simon Cox
Re: Canon C300 shooting Canon Log and setting Zebras?
on Jul 26, 2013 at 6:55:20 pm

Hi Todd,

Everything seems to travel down the cable to the EVF except Peaking, (perhaps because you can set it to various colours and other parameters). Zebras, frame guides etc all there.

Cheers

Simon

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Todd Terry
Re: Canon C300 shooting Canon Log and setting Zebras?
on Jul 26, 2013 at 6:58:59 pm

Dang it... peaking is the only one of the things that I would want to display on another monitor.

Just my luck...

T2

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