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Esther Casas
Blu Ray setting doubt: MPEG-2 from compressor or H264 and encode to MPEG-4 in Toast 11?
on Oct 17, 2012 at 2:59:16 pm

Hello everybody!!!

I've been reading many many forums talking about the best technique to burn a blu ray from HD footage..I still have a doubt and need to resolve it very soon as I am on a deadline.

Here my story:

From FCP export self-contained short film (11.5 minutes long)Apple ProRes 422, 2048X1152 size (9.7GB approx), then import into compressor 3.5 and set up for Blu Ray:

Mpeg-2 program stream: choose Blu-ray and I don't really change anything in the VIDEO format, leaving it "automatic" so it has same size and frame rate, right? (m2v file is around 800mgb when done, it takes 3hrs approx)
"quality": average bit rate: 30 and maximum 36Mbps...as i need it to be blu ray..

ac3: from best quality DVD 90 minutes, 256Kbps

Then: import mv2 into toast 11 and tell it "never encode". if you do that, toast will only multiplex and write, so the quality is exactly like the mpeg-2 from compressor, right?

I had some problems compressing m2v files, sometimes they are only 200mgb and don't open (DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHY?? I AM COMPRESSING TO H264 TO AVOID THIS PROBLEM WITH THE m2v file(?)) so what i did was set up BluRay H264 1080 resolution, then importing in Toast and asking to encode an MPEG-4 AVC file.

So I have 2 questions:

Which is the best quality setting? M2V from compressor directly to Toast11 or H264 and encode to MPEG-4AVC in Toast 11? And, do I really need to encode this H264 file? I am wondering if quality is ok as I am encoding twice??

some people in forums indicated that H264 was not so "reliable" when burning BluRay DVDs...meaning I can never burn H264 directly in toast 11? even if it does, you get a non-playable bluray?

THANKS IN ADVANCE TO EVERYONE!!!


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Michael Slowe
Re: Blu Ray setting doubt: MPEG-2 from compressor or H264 and encode to MPEG-4 in Toast 11?
on Oct 20, 2012 at 10:09:44 am

For heavens sake I think you are 'making a meal' of this.
I edit in the ProRes HQ codec in Media 100, not FCP it's true. I export a QT .Mov still in the ProRes codec. All I then do is drag my .Mov file into Toast 11 Pro and it encodes the Blu-Ray , taking about the same time as the production runs for. I then burn my BD in a stand alone Lacie BD player / burner from the computer - a Mac Pro.

You should be able to do exactly this. My BD's look terrific by the way.

Michael Slowe


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Esther Casas
Re: Blu Ray setting doubt: MPEG-2 from compressor or H264 and encode to MPEG-4 in Toast 11?
on Oct 20, 2012 at 2:28:54 pm

Hello Michael,
well, if you look around almost everyone encodes/compress his QT before burning...many people told me to avoid encoding in Toast 11 as apparently is not great for this. But having said that, I will give it a try...

A question for you: when i burn in toast 11, I have issues with the menu, I am using my custom made menu and still in the DVD when the menu appears even if you add your own picture, you still have to choose a menu style, otherwise there is no menu at all. Do you know how to just see the menu you created with nothing else? couldn't find the way to...

thanks M!


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Michael Slowe
Re: Blu Ray setting doubt: MPEG-2 from compressor or H264 and encode to MPEG-4 in Toast 11?
on Oct 20, 2012 at 4:17:26 pm

Well Esther, all I can do is list what I do and my Blu-Rays look ace on big plasma screens.

I don't want menus though, I just want my film to play when I press play on the player, so your requirement is different. You mention Blu-Ray in the same breath as DVD, they are very different animals. Blu-Ray is only for full HD (1920 X 1080) and DVD is SD only and the codecs are different. I don't use Toast for DVD's, I use BitVice which does a brilliant downscale from HD before encoding the mpeg 2 SD file. I can't help more I'm afraid but others doubtless will.

Michael Slowe


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