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Jessica Lawheed
DVDSP DVDs only cropped or squished in certain players
on May 22, 2012 at 3:46:01 am

Hello All,

I have been searching the forums for this particular problem, but everyone else seems to have goofed on the HD thing or have title safe issues etc...

I am burning DVDs that work fine on some players and weird on others. I've learned that HDMI connected players will play better than those connected via component cables, but if we're submitting to festivals, I'd like to know that the film will play well regardless of what they're playing it on.

My workflow went from FCP straight to compressor with DVD BEST 150 min parameters, then those two files into DVDSP. I have burned 3 DVD's so far. 2 16:9 pan-scan, SD with a simple menu, one with lossless checked and one with it unchecked. Both of these work fine on Xbox/PS3 (both of which are connected via HDMI), but when put in my DVD player which is connected via component cables are severely cropped. The TV I am watching this on is widescreen HD tv.

Here is my build:
Starting DVD Build MM_032712...
Compiler Initializing...
Precompiling Project MM_032712
Compiling VMG Information...
Created 7 PGCs in VTSM1
Created 8 PGCs in VMG.
1 Menu(s) will be created...
Compiling Menu PGCs...
Compiling Menu#1 (Menu 1)...
Skipped Rendering Menu:Menu 1,Language:1.
Writing VIDEO_TS.VOB
1 VTSs and 1 Titles will be created...
Compiling VTS#1 (Mother's Milk-MPEG-2 3.7Mbps 2-pass)...
VOB up to date. Muxing skipped.
Linking VMG...
Linking VTS#1...
Writing VTS#1...
Writing VMG...
Writing Layout Info...
Compile Completed Successfully
Note: The directory ‘/Volumes/MM_01/dvd/Untitled.dspproj’ is not a DVD-Video directory and will not be included in the final disc or DLT.
Note: The file ‘MM_032712.layout’ found in the ‘VIDEO_TS’ folder is not a DVD-Video file and will not be included in the final disc or DLT.
Note: The file ‘VOB_DATA.LAY’ found in the ‘VIDEO_TS’ folder is not a DVD-Video file and will not be included in the final disc or DLT.
Start formatting
Formatting as Standard DVD
Simulation mode is off
Lossless linking is off
Number of layers is 1
Doing side 1 of 1
Playable in region 1,2,3,4,5,6,8
Disc size is 12 cm
Disc has no copyright material
Writing ISO 9660 directories
Writing UDF 1.02 structures
Writing files
Writing final UDF information
Formatting finished.

The other I burned 16:9 Letterbox, same simple menu, lossless checked. Again, in HDMI connected player it's fantastic, in component, it's squished- the letter box (duh) puts letter boxing on my 16:9 movie playing on my 16:9 TV. This was a trial since the other two didn't work.

Here is my build for that:
Starting DVD Build MM_032712...
Compiler Initializing...
Precompiling Project MM_032712
Compiling VMG Information...
Created 7 PGCs in VTSM1
Created 8 PGCs in VMG.
1 Menu(s) will be created...
Compiling Menu PGCs...
Compiling Menu#1 (Menu 1)...
Rendering Menu:Menu 1,Language:1...
Writing VIDEO_TS.VOB
1 VTSs and 1 Titles will be created...
Compiling VTS#1 (Mother's Milk-MPEG-2 3.7Mbps 2-pass)...
Muxing VTS_01_1.VOB
Done.
Linking VMG...
Linking VTS#1...
Writing VTS#1...
Writing VMG...
Writing Layout Info...
Compile Completed Successfully
Note: The directory ‘/Volumes/MM_01/dvd/Untitled.dspproj’ is not a DVD-Video directory and will not be included in the final disc or DLT.
Note: The file ‘MM_032712.layout’ found in the ‘VIDEO_TS’ folder is not a DVD-Video file and will not be included in the final disc or DLT.
Note: The file ‘VOB_DATA.LAY’ found in the ‘VIDEO_TS’ folder is not a DVD-Video file and will not be included in the final disc or DLT.
Start formatting
Formatting as Standard DVD
Simulation mode is off
Lossless linking is on
Number of layers is 1
Doing side 1 of 1
Playable in region 1,2,3,4,5,6,8
Disc size is 12 cm
Disc has no copyright material
Writing ISO 9660 directories
Writing UDF 1.02 structures
Writing files
Writing final UDF information
Formatting finished.


Please help me to know what I need to do to get it to look right on my regular DVD player. If there is more specs you need, let me know what they are. Perhaps I'm just not searching the proper way to find the answer to this question, but I can't avoid not posting anymore.

Thanks,
Jessica


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eric pautsch
Re: DVDSP DVDs only cropped or squished in certain players
on May 22, 2012 at 10:45:05 am

It's because you don't have your Player set up properly according to your monitor. Look in the players menu

How and why are you set up pan/scan? Did you encode p/s? That needs to be letterbox

Also, did you remember to encode 16x9, not 4x3?


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Jessica Lawheed
Re: DVDSP DVDs only cropped or squished in certain players
on May 22, 2012 at 1:34:56 pm

Hi! Thank you for responding.

I will look in the player set-up, but my concern is that when we send it to festivals, they wont be able to see it properly, and will chuck it out-right if the player needs to be adjusted. Yes, I did encode 16:9 but not sure about p/s- I only tried it in dvdsp because I was ruling things out.

Here is part of the log info from the compression:

Stream Type: MPEG-2 Video Elementary
Frame Dimensions: 720x480
Frame Rate: 29.970030 progressive, pulldown from 23.976025
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Video Format: NTSC / SMPTE 170M
Chroma Format: 4:2:0
GOP Pattern: 12/3 closed IBB
Rate Control: 2-pass VBR 3700000 bps target, 7500000 bps max
Motion Estimation: +l2orig+l0mbloop+smoothing
Search Range: 16x16
RD Optimization: +fast+dct+mode
Flags: 0x2
Visual Masking: on
Intra DC Precision: 8-bit
Quant Scale Mode: auto
Intra VLC Mode: auto
Coef Scan Mode: auto
Quant Matrix: 1
Segment Type: last

When I letter box it though, it gets letter boxed on my 16:9 television, so it's squished- and thats with my TV being set to view 16:9. I can zoom in on my tv and it fits fine, but now it's slightly pixelated, and that's also another thing I don't want to have to have a judge mess around with at a festival. Or is there always some version of that, and it's acceptable?

Thanks again.


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Michael Sacci
Re: DVDSP DVDs only cropped or squished in certain players
on May 22, 2012 at 2:57:58 pm

There is no setting when authoring to fix faulty DVD player/tv setup. I would assume all festivals have there gear setup correctly. If they don't there is nothing you can do about it. Other than hand delivering and setup it up for eat one of them.


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Kylee Peña
Re: DVDSP DVDs only cropped or squished in certain players
on May 22, 2012 at 8:25:19 pm

You should try to test your DVD in several DVD players if it's important, that'll help you figure out if it's an authoring issue or a DVD player issue.

I'd say go try it in a few other players since it seems to be something wrong with your setup.


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Jessica Lawheed
Re: DVDSP DVDs only cropped or squished in certain players
on May 22, 2012 at 8:53:25 pm

Thank you.

I have actually just given it to another person and he put it in his DVD player- cropped. But on his PS3 it's fine. Seems to be an HDMI connection thing, but I can't find ANY setting out of dvdsp that my dvd player or his dvd player will accept outright.


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Michael Sacci
Re: DVDSP DVDs only cropped or squished in certain players
on May 22, 2012 at 10:11:21 pm

There is NO setting for you to change in dvdsp. It is what it is. If it is just being cropped it is just an overscan deal, which is why there is still action safe. If is distorting or zooming it is a player or TV setup problem. You can try it on a hundred TVs and players but there is nothing you can do in dvdsp or another DVD authoring software.


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