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Federico Palumbo
23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 3, 2011 at 5:20:02 am

Hi, i have a docu in 23.98fps, i need to make PAL DVD and BLURAY.

For the PAL DVD, to have max compatibility, shoul I convert the frame rate to 25? Should I Interlac? What is the best method, and how to do it?

Regarding BLURAY i have the same question...

Last, my DVD and BLURAY should work in South America and Europe, I have to use Region 0 or I have to make 2 different disk (region 2 and 4)?

Thanks


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eric pautsch
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 3, 2011 at 7:26:57 am

What you need to do is make an NTSC 23.98 DVD. This will play on all players worldwide (including PAL) countries. Remember to set your region to 0 (open region)

For the Blu Ray, youd make a 23.98 title. This play play on all players worldwide as well



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Federico Palumbo
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 3, 2011 at 4:24:14 pm

[eric pautsch] "What you need to do is make an NTSC 23.98 DVD. This will play on all players worldwide (including PAL) countries. Remember to set your region to 0 (open region)

For the Blu Ray, youd make a 23.98 title. This play play on all players worldwide as well"


Do you think is ok to make a NTSC DVD for Europe market?


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eric pautsch
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 3, 2011 at 6:49:01 pm

Are you going to be replicating and selling DVDs and Blu Rays?



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Federico Palumbo
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 3, 2011 at 7:21:35 pm

What do you mean?


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eric pautsch
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 3, 2011 at 10:09:07 pm

What are you planning on doing with the film specifically? Are you sending to specific people? Film fests? Are you making a bunch of copies and selling them in stores?



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Federico Palumbo
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 3, 2011 at 10:18:49 pm

The DVD will be donated, thousands of copies. Also has to be delivered to festival.

Anyway my point is do the best method to have the DVD and BluRay for each country.


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eric pautsch
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 3, 2011 at 11:02:24 pm

Stick with just making a 23.98 NTSC disc then. They will play worldwide.



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Brad Wright
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 5, 2011 at 2:43:41 pm

I would recommend following this workflow. Create a 23.976 and a 24 fps master. For DVD PAL is 720x576 and NTSC is 720x480. There's a significant difference is resolution between the two standards. PAL works better with a 24 fps exactly frame rate where as 23.976 on PAL will produce a frame jump every so often. I wrote an article on transferring HD footage to DVD which might help, as well.

Brad Wright is software engineer, so it may be difficult to understand what he is saying. He is always happy to explain his greater detail.


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Federico Palumbo
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 5, 2011 at 3:49:02 pm

Hi,
my fotage is fullhd (1080) 23.98.

you say:

[Brad Wright] "Create a 23.976 and a 24 fps master."

Do you mean 1080@23.98 and 1080@24 or 576@23.98 and 576@24?


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Brad Wright
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 5, 2011 at 3:58:14 pm

You need to export at two different frame rates from Final Cut Pro. 24p is actually two standards. Film is exactly 24 frames and NTSC is nearly 24 frames (23.976). You want to create a film frame rate and an NTSC film frame rate.

Brad Wright is software engineer, so it may be difficult to understand what he is saying. He is always happy to explain his greater detail.


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Federico Palumbo
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 5, 2011 at 4:29:05 pm

Sorry i don't understand, 576@23.98 and 576@24 ???

Than, what to do? with the two video?


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Brad Wright
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 5, 2011 at 4:32:38 pm

Two masters for DVD. Each with the following frame rates and resolutions. Submit those for encoding.

NTSC:
23.976
720x480 Anamorphic

PAL
24 fps
720x576 Anamorphic

Read the article, it will help explain the workflow.

Brad Wright is software engineer, so it may be difficult to understand what he is saying. He is always happy to explain his greater detail.


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eric pautsch
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 5, 2011 at 6:48:07 pm

Keep things simple. Create one 24p NTSC disc and distribute that. It will play on all players and set ups.

I personally have several hundred thousand NTSC titles floating around Europe and S America with no issues.



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Federico Palumbo
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 5, 2011 at 6:51:21 pm

[eric pautsch] "Keep things simple. Create one 24p NTSC disc and distribute that. It will play on all players and set ups.

I personally have several hundred thousand NTSC titles floating around Europe and S America with no issues."



24p NTSC means 23.98 ?


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Daniel Ludwig
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 30, 2011 at 5:43:11 pm

frederico,
stay at 23.98 for both media, Blu-ray and DVD, so you´ll be fine with both.

your 23.98-film will be encoded to 29.98 NDF (non dropped frames)NTSC for DVD incl. the requred pulldown, so it´ll will match perfectly.

1080p23.98 will work on blu-ray without any changes, as 108p23.98 is part of the BD-specs.

cheers

danny


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Michael Sacci
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 5, 2011 at 6:57:34 pm

Yes, there is no such thing as TRUE 24p in NTSC.


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eric pautsch
Re: 23.98 to PAL DVD and BLURAY
on Dec 5, 2011 at 11:25:21 pm

Yeah.....my apology for saying 24p.

Down convert to get a
720x480 23.98 16x9 anamorphic File. Encode this progressive and use in a NTSC project. They wlll play on all players worldwide



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