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David Hames
24p or 30p better for making a PAL DVD?
on Dec 13, 2008 at 12:11:57 am

I've searched around and seem to find conflicting views. I'm creating a program on DVD that's primarily for the US market, but I may need to make a PAL DVD as well. Which frame rate better converts to 25p/PAL, 24p or 30p? BTW--60i isn't an option because I need the progressive/film look. Also, I've heard Apple's Compressor does a decent job with this, if I use the frame controls options--is that the best way to go?

Thanks for your help.

David





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Bouke Vahl
Re: 24p or 30p better for making a PAL DVD?
on Dec 14, 2008 at 10:28:07 am

If you have 24p, you can speed it up to 25, scale up to 720 x 576 and you have PAL in the highest quality possible.
If you have 30p, you need to throw out 5 frames a second, and that will cause unwanted artefacts no matter the conversion process.

Now there is also a 24 standard for PAL in the DVD specs, but i have never seen it in use. (Probably the player will speed it up to 25 on playback)

In reality, almost every pal set is able to playback NTSC, so you could easilly leave it as it is.
(i'm in the PAL side of the world, and just finished a huge DVD project. For this we have decided to create NTSC discs, as it will be distributed world wide. (Since the sources were film it wasn't really difficult even with Pal equipment)


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David Keslick
Re: 24p or 30p better for making a PAL DVD?
on Dec 16, 2008 at 6:50:01 pm

24p would be better than 30p for converting to pal. If you add a simple 3:2 pulldown to your 24p output you could than use DVFilm Atlantis to convert to PAL. Atlantis will adjust the video and the audio and output 25p pal. You can download a free demo. 25% off until xmas.

Hope this helps,
Dave



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Bouke Vahl
Re: 24p or 30p better for making a PAL DVD?
on Dec 16, 2008 at 6:55:56 pm

Dave,
this makes no sense at all.
Why on earth would one add frames that do not exist to throw them away afterwards, AND have to buy additional software to do an unneeded, quality reducing, time consuming step?




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Michael Sacci
Re: 24p or 30p better for making a PAL DVD?
on Dec 16, 2008 at 6:59:18 pm

wrong thread


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Bouke Vahl
Re: 24p or 30p better for making a PAL DVD?
on Dec 16, 2008 at 7:03:10 pm

Huh?
Why did you press Post then?

Or am i missing something?


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Michael Sacci
Re: 24p or 30p better for making a PAL DVD?
on Dec 16, 2008 at 7:28:21 pm

because I could edit my dumb mistake but not delete it. :-)





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Bouke Vahl
Re: 24p or 30p better for making a PAL DVD?
on Dec 16, 2008 at 7:47:28 pm

That makes sense
(except your dumb reply isn't here anymore so we can't make fun of you :-)



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David Keslick
Re: 24p or 30p better for making a PAL DVD?
on Dec 16, 2008 at 8:06:47 pm

Bouke,

Sorry if I was unclear. You add the pulldown because Atlantis needs 29.97 footage to convert. There would be no lose of quality. Once you have the footage with pulldown it is one step to convert to PAL.

Dave



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