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Rafal Pyszka
Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 17, 2008 at 5:35:29 pm

Hi. I have a question about dvd ripping. I use Mpeg Streamclip on Mac Pro. When use mpeg streamclip i choose demux to m2v and aiff. After then audio and video goes to Dvd Architect or another Authoring Software. Second method is export to dv-pal, edit in Final Cut Pro and export using compressor to mpeg2. Is an another methods to rip a/v from dvd? It depends me then video is high quality. I work with dvd pal 720 x 576 only.


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Lucas Fazzary
Re: Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 17, 2008 at 6:48:25 pm

Look down about 6 posts.

http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/55/859420




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Rafal Pyszka
Re: Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 17, 2008 at 6:56:04 pm

thanks. Can You tell me more about Mac pricey demuxers?



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Noah Kadner
Re: Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 18, 2008 at 2:04:01 am

Not really- that's sorta an illegal topic. But as with all questions, google is your friend and partner in crime.

Noah

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Rafal Pyszka
Re: Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 18, 2008 at 12:20:08 pm

My questions is informational only. I just study this topic.



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Noah Kadner
Re: Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 18, 2008 at 10:47:36 pm

Mmmhmm... I suspect you'll want to create a somewhat more defensible alibi when the RIAA lawyers come around.

Noah

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Dan Asselin
Re: Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 19, 2008 at 1:55:45 am

Hi Noah;

As long as I have been hanging around at the cow questions about ripping DVD's have elicited nothing but scorn and sometimes rage. I would, however, like to mention that I am a busy DVD author who regularly has to legally rip DVD's for re-authoring for many major clients. The names of many of these companies who don't offer access to original footage for creating re-releases is something which has always amazed me.

This may not be normal but it does happen to me a lot and I suspect I am not alone.

Just my 2 cents. Dan



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Lucas Fazzary
Re: Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 19, 2008 at 8:25:27 pm

I have to agree with Dan on this. There is no indication that this person is trying to disassemble a DVD in an illegal manner. To assume that is kind of ignorant. 50% of my DVD authoring jobs are based around fixing issues with existing masters or pulling content from multiple DVD's to create a new master altogether. In these cases programs such as DVD Reauthor Pro are quite handy since I do most of my Authoring in Scenarist.

If Rafal had asked "what is the best program to remove copy protection?" then I could see the reason for concern. But reauthoring DVD's or offering a client the ability to extract content from existing masters is a great service to provide and the pay can sometimes be greater then authoring a DVD from scratch. I have won over many clients that either did not have the original content or they don't want to go back to the original author because they did such a poor job in the first place.

Well thats my 2 cents anyhow. I think reauthoring should be discussed in great detail on this board because many people have different workflows or know of products that a simple Google search can not yield. I do not think that jumping to the conclusion that anyone who wants to extract content from a DVD is doing so illegally.


-Luke



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eric pautsch
Re: Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 19, 2008 at 10:00:20 pm

Rafal

I think your question is totally legit. However, some words might throw up some red flags. "Ripping" is the process of removing copy protection from a replicated disc. Even if it's given to you and owned by one of your clients, it's still against the law to do this (like it or not). "Demuxing" is something different - separating muxed files from the original VOB. Demuxing and Ripping are 2 different things. I know you never mentioned ripping but just so you know in the future.

I'm not entirely sure what the original question is but using MPEG Stream Clip is the perfect tool.



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Rafal Pyszka
Re: Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 20, 2008 at 10:20:20 am

Big thanks guys. At this moment i know then i use bad topic subject. I know directly from You. I want to learn more about DEMUXING really. I create many authorings for many major clients legally from dvd's and i still looking for better method and software. Our corporation replicate hundred thousands of discs for whole Europe each week. At first moment i feel like a criminal when i read post from Noah Kadner. Thanks for this information. Greetings.



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Noah Kadner
Re: Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 21, 2008 at 2:50:22 am

Thanks for giving me a good thread with which to discuss on several accounts. My opinions:

A- who actually ever admits they want to rip DVDs illegally? Haven't met a pirate yet who didn't vehemently deny illegal activities. In fact they always cry wolf and lay the guilt trip out for everyone's surprisingly accusatory stance. Not saying that this particular guy is lying but who has all day to play 20 questions? Not my job and not the purpose of this forum.

B- Assuming this guy does want legit methods to rip DVDs, by communicating those reasons we enable other folks who are pirating DVDs to read the same threads and rip off legit copyright holders. There's no such thing as "good ripping" and so not a legit usage for the Cow.

C- It's a lazy question in the first place. Anyone can find this stuff out in five seconds just via Google. So why should we be google for lazy people? That's again not the purpose of this board.

So there you have it....




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Lucas Fazzary
Re: Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 21, 2008 at 12:25:48 pm

A- Unfortunately you shouldn't assume the worst. This is the same as "guilty before proven innocent" stance. I for one as well as others probably didn't even suspect him of "ripping" because it was never mentioned. Reauthoring like I said is legit. No need for 20 questions. It was spelled out fine in Rafal's original post. I understand as a moderator you are somewhat of "police" for the board but gotta remember there are good people out there too that aren't out to make copies of Hollywood DVD's.

B-Never said anything about ripping. Plus most movie pirates have there own sites they goto to get information on "ripping". The creative cow probably isn't on their list.

C-Wow so why have the Creative Cow boards if "google" is the answer for everything? I thought the purpose of this board was to discuss things like this with others in the industry that may have more effective ways of accomplishing certain tasks. I dont think as of yet you can discuss DVD authoring with Google.

Basically I am sorry that this has turned into a back and forth argument as this time could have been spent helping a fellow Author/Human Being with an issue that is totally legit.

I just see this type of backwards thinking all to often (not just on Creative Cow)and I think as more and more people keep assuming the worst or always being negative then what hope do we have as a society? -thats deep!

-Luke



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Noah Kadner
Re: Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 21, 2008 at 5:27:43 pm

A- Sorry to burst your bubble but the net is full of pirates and porn- assuming the worst is called being realistic.

B-Um the name of this thread is ripping, and it's not even spelled correctly.

C-Google is quite often the answer- for questions that are illegal or have been answered countless times- both like this one. I've answered many thousands of legit issues on this board so I think I've earned the right to call foul on DVD ripping, thank you....




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Rafal Pyszka
Re: Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 21, 2008 at 6:37:57 pm

So please change a topic name to DVD demuxing and everything gonna be ok.



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Alan Smith
Re: Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 25, 2008 at 12:11:23 pm

I have need to do this for clients who already have DVD's and want to create a compilation DVD, for example. The program that I use is DVDxDV Pro. It is a fairly inexpensive application that allows you to extract the video from a DVD into a variety of formats. It will not work on copy protected media, but works beautifully on other DVD media.

http://www.dvdxdv.com/NewFolderLookSite/Products/DVDxDV.overview.htm





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Rafal Pyszka
Re: Dvd Ripiping - reauthoring
on Apr 25, 2008 at 5:20:00 pm

Thanks for info Alan.



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