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Mark Suszko
I need some 24p tips please
on Aug 11, 2010 at 2:41:30 pm

Using a Panasonic HDX900P shooting DVCproHD tape. The boss decreed all video is to be shot in 24p without exception. Our guys are struggling to do this and not see all the blur and temporal artifacting. Apart from adding a 1:48 shutter, and not making fast pans or zooms, any other tricks we can apply on the camera end or in post to minimize motion artifacts? I would shoot in 720/30p if I could, but help me to make this work in the required 24p, please. Editing in final cut, have Cinematools, but never used it before.


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Emre Tufekci S.O.A.
Re: I need some 24p tips please
on Aug 11, 2010 at 3:41:36 pm

I dont think there is really too much we can add to what you already know. We have been doing 24p native for 4-5 years but the advantage we have is in the tapeless workflow we actually shoot 24P (not a pulldown in the camera to 60i).

We run 24N all the way through the pipeline and use advanced pulldown tools (like inside episode or similar) that do a much cleaner job that the Camera will for the pulldown.

I know I am saying go buy P2 cameras but unfortunately I don't think there is much more we can contribute.

PS: We find 24A is cleaner than 24p straight.

Hope this helps.

Emre Tufekci
http://www.productionpit.com



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Emre Tufekci S.O.A.
Re: I need some 24p tips please
on Aug 11, 2010 at 5:20:31 pm

Here are a few samples of stuff we shot all the 24P native (fast, slow, moving, panning, tilting..etc) and got good results doing a pulldown in post.

First one is a fast action recruiting video.



This one is a corporate/marketing video. Slow paced.



This last one is Demo reel for steadicam which is a mix of content.



Hopefully this will give you an overview of what can be achieved.
Cheers

Emre Tufekci
http://www.productionpit.com



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Mark Suszko
Re: I need some 24p tips please
on Aug 11, 2010 at 5:31:30 pm

Thanks, Emre, I was hoping for actual settings and specific "recipes".


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Emre Tufekci S.O.A.
Re: I need some 24p tips please
on Aug 11, 2010 at 5:42:32 pm

Yeah, not much help there... I havent touched a HDX900 in 4 years.

Just try the advanced pulldown setting, I think that helps a little. Also shooting 1/48 or 180 degree shutter (same thing) will probably ease the motion blurring.

Emre Tufekci
http://www.productionpit.com



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John Fishback
Re: I need some 24p tips please
on Aug 11, 2010 at 9:33:24 pm

A shallow depth of field helps. Backgrounds not in sharp focus judder less.

John

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