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Jack Kelly
Shoot Super-16mm on a low budget
on Apr 5, 2006 at 10:47:24 pm

Hi Creative Cowers!

If you're thinking about shooting your next project on Super-16mm but you're worried you don't have the budget then you might be interested in this article:

Shooting Super-16mm On A Low Budget

The article first considers some reasons why you might want to shoot on Super-16mm instead of on tape. It then goes on to discuss ways in which you can shoot your film on Super-16mm in the most cost effective way.

If you have any suggestions or comments about the article then please let me know!

Kindest regards,
Jack


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donatello
Re: Shoot Super-16mm on a low budget
on Apr 6, 2006 at 7:56:17 pm

"A typical "low budget" package might be an Arri SR3 with a set of primes and a handful of glass filters for around


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Jack Kelly
Re: Shoot Super-16mm on a low budget
on Apr 7, 2006 at 1:09:09 pm

"either way that is way TOO low for a Arri sr3 with set of primes & filters for a week. that's a "dream" rate"

Thanks for your reply! You're right - it is a low rate. But I've produced 3 super-16mm short films and that rate was an average for those shoots. Honest.

(And yes, I meant 200 UK pounds as in currency as in about 300 US dollars)

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David Jones
Re: Shoot Super-16mm on a low budget
on Apr 7, 2006 at 1:00:29 pm

The "Arri" in the pic looks to be an old Aaton.

Film shoots in my area have all gone the way of the covered wagon.
I sold all of my 35mm and 16mm gear some time ago on ebay while they were still bringing higher dollar,
except for an old Bolex 16mm which I kept as a handheld fx cam, but have yet to use.




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Jack Kelly
Re: Shoot Super-16mm on a low budget
on Apr 7, 2006 at 1:10:26 pm

"The "Arri" in the pic looks to be an old Aaton."

Oh, really? Hmm... you could be right... I'm sure I remember the DP saying it was an SR2. I you SURE it's not an Arri?

Thanks for the reply though!

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Jack Kelly
London
Dir / Prod / Camera
Jack-Kelly.com - my homepage
UKfilm.org - Advice, Discussion and News for the UK filmmaker
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David Jones
Re: Shoot Super-16mm on a low budget
on Apr 7, 2006 at 10:57:28 pm

[Jack Kelly] "Oh, really? Hmm... you could be right... I'm sure I remember the DP saying it was an SR2. I you SURE it's not an Arri?"

Aaton LTR



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Bob Cole
Re: Shoot Super-16mm on a low budget
on Apr 9, 2006 at 3:07:58 pm

Good analysis. You asked for suggestions.

With video, the shooting ratio is almost immaterial.
With video, you can catch mistakes right away (with proper monitoring).
With film you have to budget for dirt fixes.

But raw stock smells good, and you are right that there is a certain prestige to film, although this is a rapidly diminishing factor and may impress us insiders more than others.



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Jack Kelly
Re: Shoot Super-16mm on a low budget
on Apr 9, 2006 at 11:38:16 pm

Hi guys,

Thanks loads for your replies.

Jack


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Steve Freebairn
Re: Shoot Super-16mm on a low budget
on Apr 10, 2006 at 5:33:56 pm

I'm kind of surprised that you didn't mention anything about Depth of Field, which is an area where film is still very much King. a 1/3 inch hd camera has similar depth of field properties to Super8. a 2/3inch ccd camera is roughly equivalent to 16 mm, and you would need a 1.377 inch ccd to equal 35mm's depth of field.


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Jack Kelly
Re: Shoot Super-16mm on a low budget
on Apr 14, 2006 at 6:52:56 pm

Hi Steve,

Thanks a lot for your reply. The reason I didn't mention depth of field is because, as you point out, Super-16mm does offer significantly shallower DOF than a 2/3"-sensor video camera. Also, of course, there are ways to get shallow DOF on a tape camera (e.g. shoot on a long lense or use some sort of "cine-adapter").

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Jack Kelly
London
Dir / Prod / Camera
Jack-Kelly.com - my homepage
UKfilm.org - Advice, Discussion and News for the UK filmmaker
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