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Colin McQuillan
Work Lights for Production Lights.. Am I mad for even considering this…?
on Feb 23, 2011 at 1:35:20 am

I have been interested in picking up couple Kino Diva's + Kino Barfly kit for some time but the cost is a little much so i've been holding off, renting when needed.

I found these fluorescent work lights at the local hardware store for a fraction of the price:

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=1...

Two lights with a set of sticks for ~$130
Wouldn't take much to fab some barn doors or cut out checker screens…
Grip-tape away the ugly green.
Bulbs are 6500K.. so decent for outdoor/near window lighting.. would require a pile of CTO gels to bring it down if and when needed.
Unfortunately they don't offer replacement bulbs in any other colour temperature, only 6500K….

Any serious issues to contend with?

Colin McQuillan
Vancouver, B.C.


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Mark Suszko
Re: Work Lights for Production Lights.. Am I mad for even considering this…?
on Feb 23, 2011 at 3:01:30 pm

No, you are not crazy, if you see these only as a short-term stopgap solution, which is all they erally are. IF you're doing this to save cash up so you can eventually buy real "big-boy" lights, I think you are on the right track.


The price seems high, though for simple work lights, and I think you'll find the range and power of those little tubes is not what you'd hoped for. If I was going to go the Home Depot route for temporary lighting, I'd still go with halogen, or I would use long shop light tubes to make a 2-tube to 4-tube, 4-foot diffused soft bank with a head that will fit a light stand and allow some aiming. The halogens can be bounced off of white foamcore boards, or you can make a Chimera-like soft box for them. They need diffusion no matter what else.


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Dennis Size
Re: Work Lights for Production Lights.. Am I mad for even considering this…?
on Feb 24, 2011 at 5:33:13 am

Buy the cheap crappy Home Depot fixtures and outfit them with Kino-Flo Tru-Match 2900K lamps

DS



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Bill Davis
Re: Work Lights for Production Lights.. Am I mad for even considering this…?
on Mar 3, 2011 at 7:48:45 am

Like everyone else here indicates, there's NOTHING wrong with using what you can afford in your early days. I remember hauling my fluorescent shop lights on stands into stores back in my early days.

Just understand that what ALL of these do is simply vomit a LOT of generic lumins in a general direction. It's fine for brining up the overall light level and even filling in eye-socket shadows that can come from overhead fluorescent lighting in stores. PLUS if you can populate your shop lights with EXACTLY the same kind of tubes that light the rest of the store - you won't have ANY color temp issues.

HOWEVER. All of this has as LITTLE to do with actual movie or quality video lighting as house painting has to do with fine art. Both shop lights and video lights put out visible radiation. But while there's craft (and a LOT of hard work) involved in painting a house and nobody would or should expect that the time someone spends painting houses in ANY way gets them prepared to paint a person's portrait. If you aspire to be a portrait painter, you MUST get the proper brushes and canvas and start learning portrait techniques. Time spent doing ANYTHING else is time NOT progressing toward your goal.

And in video lighting, time spent with shop lights and rigging work-arounds might be fun, can certainly can be financially necessary - but it simply doesn't start your REAL skill development.

Just so you understand.

"Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions."-Justice O'Conner


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Todd Terry
Re: Work Lights for Production Lights.. Am I mad for even considering this…?
on Mar 3, 2011 at 3:18:22 pm

[Bill Davis] "I remember hauling my fluorescent shop lights on stands into stores back in my early days."

I remember doing that last week.

Seriously, we have a number of Home Depot shop lights that we use... although they don't usually travel out of the studio, mostly for wall washing and greenscreen illumination. We did doctor them up a bit... they've been painted black, they have 5/8" posts installed on the back, and they've had flickerless ballasts and Kino tubes installed. I even made up a fake brand name ("CineGlo") and put a logo on them... just in case clients see them. But still, at their heart, they are just 15-buck shop lights. And they do what they need to do just fine.

And back to Bill's painting analogy.... it's not the brush that makes a great painter... it's knowing what to do with it.

But having a good paint brush does help :)

T2

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