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Nelson Row
Lamp ANSI codes, differences...
on May 27, 2008 at 4:55:25 pm

Hi,
I was hoping someone could shed some light on this issue. Ugh, bad pun...

For instance, I have a Lowel DP 1000w that accepts G9.5 lamps. G9.5 comes in a few flavors, like EHF, FEL etc. and the unit can use a number of them. I've been looking for info here and on the 'net and have not found any concise explanations, if one exists.

Is there a glossary where I can read up on the differences between these ANSI code numbers and in which situations one lamp and filament may be better than another for various purposes? Tabletop vs Interview, etc.

Thanks for any input.


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Dennis Size
Re: Lamp ANSI codes, differences...
on May 28, 2008 at 5:51:05 am

Every lamp code ("flavor") has a difference that is plainly listed on the lamp data sheet. I've attached it below for you to see. Go to the LOWEL data sheet to see it more concisely -- and in pretty colors. Each column has a particular designation such as voltage, wattage, Color temperature, average lamp life, etc.
Look over the table carefully and you will see the diffrerences. Choose wisely as to which lamp serves your needs best. If you're unclear, then just go with the recommended FEL.... although that old 1000 watter should only be used to make toast!



DP Light Lamp & Beam Data

EHC 120 500 3200 300 hr 43 (465) 390 (4200) 9:1 678 (7300) $37.50

EHD 120 500 3000 2000 hr 35 (375) 339 (3650) 10:1 743 (8000) $37.50

EHF 120 750 3200 300 hr 73 (780) 554 (5960) 8:1 892 (9600) $37.50

EHG 120 750 3000 2000 hr 70 (750) 390 (4200) 6:1 827 (8900) $37.50

FEL 120 1000 3200 300 hr 88 (950) 711 (7650) 8:1 1161 (12500) $37.50

JCV220V-500WBM 220 500 3000 2000 hr 43 (465) 242 (2600) 6:1 505 (5450) $37.50


JCV240V-500WBM 240 500 3000 2000 hr 45 (490) 218 (2350) 5:1 449 (4850) $37.50

FKR/230 230 650 3100 300 hr 61 (660) 381 (4100) 6:1 734 (7900) $57.50

FEP/230 230 1000 3200 150 hr 77 (825) 627 (6750) 8:1 1074 (11560) $43.00







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Nelson Row
Re: Lamp ANSI codes, differences...
on May 28, 2008 at 11:25:15 pm

If you had a 1000w FEL lamp what would you prefer to replace it with in the same fixture? I've read elsewhere that the FEL lamps are obsolete and another ANSI lamp might work better.

I'll check out Lowel's website.

Thanks for the information. I work in post and these lights are really for 5th unit kind of stuff and I'm getting my mind around this stuff.


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Dennis Size
Re: Lamp ANSI codes, differences...
on May 29, 2008 at 1:02:25 am

If I only had a Lowell DP light 1000kw I think I'd just kill myself or go into another line of work. It's a fixture I avoid using at all costs.
If my mother was scammed by a snake oil saleman and ended up with a DP light, desperately needed that fixture, and begged for my advice on the best lamp to use, I would advise her to buy an EHG which at 750w would be cooler, yielding a warmer color at 3000K, and last a hell of a lot longer at 2000 hours (as opposed to the 300 hours of an FEL. Even better yet -- if she didn't need to cook turkey with the light I'd recommend she buy the even cooler EHD, at 500w -- but still warm in color at 3000K and long lasting at 2000 hours.

DS



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Nelson Row
Re: Lamp ANSI codes, differences...
on May 29, 2008 at 7:43:55 pm

Thanks for the advice.

Why so harsh on this fixture? Curious how you became so passionate in your hate!

THanks


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Todd Terry
Re: Lamp ANSI codes, differences...
on May 29, 2008 at 7:54:24 pm

[Nelson Row] "Why so harsh on this fixture?"

Oh god, I'll chime in too, as the anti-fan club for those particular Lowells is far from an exclusive group.

Actually, they are great instruments if:

1) you want to bake a potato on set
2) you are curious as to what the inside of a burn unit looks like
3) you like totally uncontrollable light
4) you appreciate instruments that fall apart quickly
5) you like it when an instrument makes a comforting rattling sound
6) you like changing lamps a lot
7) your criteria for a lighting instrument includes the word "flimsy"
8) your shoot schedule includes a hour of "cool down" time before striking
9) you enjoy paying for crap

Keep in mind, I'm not speaking harshly of all the Lowels, just the DP... some of their other instruments are fine. But as for the DP, I would call them a "piece of junk," but that is unfair to all the other pieces of junk.



T2

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Todd Terry
Creative Director
Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
fantasticplastic.com






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john sharaf
Re: Lamp ANSI codes, differences...
on May 29, 2008 at 7:57:00 pm

Nelson,

It's not just Dennis, almost everyone hates this fixture, mostly because it's so hot to the touch and gross in it's lighting effect. Lowell certainly was one of the first to make compact kit lights and deserves some credit for furthering the concept, but the execution of that concept in this and other of their instruments leaves much to be desired. Their ideas were certainly very clever but mostly impractical and other manufacturers like Mole and at the time, Colortran, learned from Lowell's mistakes and brought much better equivalent products to the market. In Mole's case, the Mickey Mole 1K open faced quartz light is a much more elegant implementation, albeit a little bigger both by itself and in its case.

JS





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Dennis Size
Re: Lamp ANSI codes, differences...
on May 29, 2008 at 11:43:42 pm

As strange as it may sound, there's absolutely nothing I can say.
No one has ever totally explained my passionate hatred, and covered all the reasons why you should not use a DP light, as well as Todd Terry has!
Thank you Todd. :-)

DS




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Todd Terry
Re: Lamp ANSI codes, differences...
on May 30, 2008 at 1:12:48 am

Thanks Dennis...

Hope I didn't come off as a crank or a curmudgeon (I am one, of course... just don't want to come across as one).

I am just as vigilant about praising stuff that I like, such as most anything from LTM.


T2

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Todd Terry
Creative Director
Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
fantasticplastic.com






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Vincent Becquiot
Re: Lamp ANSI codes, differences...
on May 31, 2008 at 4:39:52 pm

But hey, would you spend 5 bucks on one ? (time sensitive), and after 3 bids !

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lowel-DP-light-with-Bogan-stand_W0QQitemZ270241449309QQ...



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Dennis Size
Re: Lamp ANSI codes, differences...
on Jun 2, 2008 at 2:46:13 am

A crank? ....hardly!
A curmudgeon? ...no where near as much as I would have, if you hadn't saved the day -- answering the question and expressing my opinion so eloquently for me!
THANKS! :-)

DS




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