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Greg Monson
Avid to Adobe Media Encoder Workflow
on Nov 7, 2018 at 10:51:46 pm

I had a rude awakening today when I upgraded my Adobe CC suite and discovered that Adobe is no longer supporting any .mov files.

I'm wondering what people are doing to get around this.

I use QT Reference movies to go from Avid to Adobe Media Encoder so that it doesn't tie up Avid on longer exports. Is there another way to create a reference-type file that doesn't use a .mov wrapper?

Any other ideas out there for speeding up long exports?


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Shane Ross
Re: Avid to Adobe Media Encoder Workflow
on Nov 8, 2018 at 1:11:59 am

Adobe still supports MOV...it's REFERENCE movies that it now is not working with. I export SAME AS SOURCE and take that large file into Encoder.

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Greg Monson
Re: Avid to Adobe Media Encoder Workflow
on Nov 8, 2018 at 3:55:26 pm

This works, although it's still about 20x slower to export a same as source file from a longer timeline. It also only works with certain codecs. It seems to be ok for DNxHD, but I have a lot of SD content I'm trying to get archived, and it doesn't seem to work with the SD codecs. I notice that Adobe recognizes it as an MP4, even though it's still technically an MOV. I'm curious if Avid is going to shift away from QT in future releases as well.


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John Pale
Re: Avid to Adobe Media Encoder Workflow
on Jun 30, 2019 at 2:39:20 pm

It’s not just reference movies. Adobe uses its own engine for QuickTime files and third party codecs are no longer supported, including Avid DNX.

If you need to use Avid files, export from Avid as Avid DNX OP1a MXF. That’s fully supported and also “same as source”.


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Graham Tees
Re: Avid to Adobe Media Encoder Workflow
on Nov 8, 2018 at 6:54:00 am

The 2017 version of Media Encoder still supports the use of QT Reference files.


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Greg Monson
Re: Avid to Adobe Media Encoder Workflow
on Nov 8, 2018 at 4:04:45 pm

Right. As do all of the other legacy versions, but that's not super helpful moving forward..


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Brent Marginet
Re: Avid to Adobe Media Encoder Workflow
on Nov 8, 2018 at 9:35:17 pm

2018 also supports QT Ref Movies so I have AME 2017 and 2018 installed on all my systems.

I haven't made the move to 2019 because everyone seems to be complaining that it's really buggy.

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Josh Aucker
Re: Avid to Adobe Media Encoder Workflow
on Jun 27, 2019 at 5:18:20 pm

Hey Brent,

How did you get that to work? Because my AME says its an unsupported file and I even contacted adobe support and they remoted in my computer and said its because Adobe got rid of QT support. did you do anything special. I am stuck in AME 2015 because of this issue. Also i believe they stopped supporting Sorenson so I have no idea what to do beside make the MXF opa files but it takes so long or just stay in AME until a miracle happens.


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Eric Santiago
Re: Avid to Adobe Media Encoder Workflow
on Jun 28, 2019 at 1:37:45 pm

[Brent Marginet] "I haven't made the move to 2019 because everyone seems to be complaining that it's really buggy."

And still is :P
I have it installed but I made sure that the flow from AE/PPro to AME is still 2018.


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Per Scaffidi
Re: Avid to Adobe Media Encoder Workflow
on Nov 19, 2018 at 8:26:21 pm

Also running into the same issue as well as the Sorenson Squeeze EOL.

The way to go right now, from what I can tell, is Export file>Avid Media Processor or MXF OP1. Either one outputs an MXF file with your choice of DnxHR flavor. Not quite as quick as a QT reference, but it's much quicker than exporting a quicktime. For example, exporting a 20-minute sequence on my machine, 4K DnxHR in quicktime, was taking over an hour. Exporting an MXF takes less than 15 minutes.

The only problem I've encountered is that squeeze can't read these DnxHR MXF files.

The one issue that's keeping me from going to AME entirely is that it can't link separate video and audio sources. I'm often delivering a video with multiple languages and audio versions, so it's a huge timesaver to only have to export one video track, and create multiple audio versions with Squeeze.


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