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Ludmil Kazakov
strange timeline 23.98 project but timecode is 29.98???
on Jan 25, 2016 at 7:42:21 pm

so i have a 23.98 project.. but when i see the timecode its 29.98.. well.. sort of.. it skips numbers..
1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 23, 24, 25, 26, 28, 29...


any ideas why its like that?


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Shane Ross
Re: strange timeline 23.98 project but timecode is 29.98???
on Jan 25, 2016 at 8:12:48 pm

You are in a 23.98 project, but most likely have your timecode set to 30DF. It should say that just to the left of the code. MAS 30DF. I do this, as we cut 23.98, but the timing needs to be set to 29.97DF to get proper show times. I'll bet yours is set the same way.

And numbers are dropped (six of them) because you are looking at a 23.98 sequence but with 29.97 timecode.

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Ludmil Kazakov
Re: strange timeline 23.98 project but timecode is 29.98???
on Jan 25, 2016 at 8:22:05 pm

its crazy when i right click on the timeline and then get info it says timeline is 23.98...

how can i change the timecode on the actual timeline?


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Shane Ross
Re: strange timeline 23.98 project but timecode is 29.98???
on Jan 25, 2016 at 8:26:22 pm

[Ludmil Kazakov] "its crazy when i right click on the timeline and then get info it says timeline is 23.98... "

Because it IS 23.98. If your project is 23.98, the timeline will be to. BUT, the TIMECODE you are viewing is 29.97. Look at the window where you see the timecode...above the PROGRAM monitor. Does it say MAS 30 DF and then the timecode?

[Ludmil Kazakov] "how can i change the timecode on the actual timeline?"

You don't. It's 23.98, and will remain 23.98 while you are in a 23.98 project. What are you wanting to do? Change the timecode reader at the top of the screen to be 23.98? That's easy enough..just click on the timecode and you'll see a menu pop up. The first option is SEQUENCE...hover the mouse over that to get the next submenu, TIMECODE...hover over that to get a list of options. If you want 23.98, choose "24" and in the next option, "MAS."

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Ludmil Kazakov
Re: strange timeline 23.98 project but timecode is 29.98???
on Jan 25, 2016 at 8:37:23 pm

yes that son the top where it says mas24 i can see it.. but then i have timecode reader on a new video track and that one along with the one on left side of the timeline its not 24 its 29...


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Shane Ross
Re: strange timeline 23.98 project but timecode is 29.98???
on Jan 25, 2016 at 8:40:33 pm

Ah...you have the TC Burnin plugin on the timeline. OK...then change the TC in the reader to 24. Open it up in the Effects tool, and under the DISPLAY 1 option, (turn down the disclosure triangle if you need to), in there is TIMECODE DISPLAY...just above APPEARANCE. the dropdown menu might say TRACK, or it might say 30DF. Click on that and change it to 24.

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Ludmil Kazakov
Re: strange timeline 23.98 project but timecode is 29.98???
on Jan 25, 2016 at 8:43:24 pm

yes that did the trick.. thanks a bunch... but then on the left side near the track control panel the timed there is 29... its okay cause i won't look there but i am curious why that is..


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Michael Phillips
Re: strange timeline 23.98 project but timecode is 29.98???
on Jan 25, 2016 at 8:56:08 pm

Are you in an NTSC 23.976 project?


Michael


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Ludmil Kazakov
Re: strange timeline 23.98 project but timecode is 29.98???
on Jan 25, 2016 at 9:12:16 pm

yes.. its in 2k though.. also u seem quite knowledgeable about avid.. the entire movie was AMA link and then converted to 1:1 mxf.. playing back is a drag even with our maxed out mac system.. any clues? i mean even when it was AMA it was so slow to respond...


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Shane Ross
Re: strange timeline 23.98 project but timecode is 29.98???
on Jan 25, 2016 at 10:06:17 pm

1:1 is a VERY high data rate. To play that back requires a very fast RAID array of drives, connected via Thunderbolt or Fibre or SAS. eSATA or Firewire or USB3 won't cut it. People don't really use 1:1 anymore because the data rate and storage requirements are very high. DNxHD is a compressed format, but a good compression, one in which doesn't really look compressed. I've worked on many docs that have gone to air, and gone to the screen, where we've used DNxHD or ProRes as the compressor. You would be better served to convert the footage to DnxHD 175 or 145, (I think that 145 is the one for 23.98, 175 is for 29.97). OH...but 2K...then you need to use the DNxHR codecs.

What camera did these files come from?

Shane
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