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connie chuang
How to fix many subtitles after already creating them within Avid with Subcap?
on Aug 2, 2014 at 9:53:42 pm

Hello,

I was told to try and use the Subcap effect to change all the many many subtitles I have in a timeline. The tutorials I saw say to throw it in a filler in your timeline, make the properties you want, apply it to track in the synchronize tab, then import your subtitles file that you can alter afterwards if needed.

The problem is that I created all those titles within Avid and do not have a subtitles file that someone created for me. I tired throwing the effect in a filler in the sequence and it would not recognize that there are titles in the layer above or below it to change. I tried changing the sycnrhonize to Sequence and Clips and still nothing!

Any ideas? Maybe export the subtitles layer as a subtitles file from Avid, in which I would not know how to do either...Help!


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Pat Horridge
Re: How to fix many subtitles after already creating them within Avid with Subcap?
on Aug 3, 2014 at 9:04:43 am

You can't do what you need. If you use the normal title tool to make titles you have to edit them individually. If you have lots of titles then the subcap effect has to be used from the beginning.
So you either edit individually or start again with the subcap effect.

Pat Horridge
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connie chuang
Re: How to fix many subtitles after already creating them within Avid with Subcap?
on Aug 3, 2014 at 1:12:23 pm

Ok. I just needed confirmation that this was the case. Thanks! Can sub cap only be used if you have a title file to import?


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Pat Horridge
Re: How to fix many subtitles after already creating them within Avid with Subcap?
on Aug 3, 2014 at 2:00:12 pm

You can add subcaps within MC but a bit clunky

Pat Horridge
Technical Director, Trainer, Avid Certified Instructor
Free online Tutorials at VET digital media academy online http://vimeo.com/channels/752951
VET
Production Editing Digital Media Design DVD
T +44 (0)20 7505 4701 | F +44 (0)20 7505 4800 | E pat@vet.co.uk |
http://www.vet.co.uk | Lux Building 2-4 Hoxton Square London N1 6US


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Michael Phillips
Re: How to fix many subtitles after already creating them within Avid with Subcap?
on Aug 3, 2014 at 4:04:05 pm

I have subtitled entire features before using SubCap- as Pat says, not the most ideal, but it can work. I add a subcap effect to the top layer of the V tracks. Then, with waveforms active on my dialog track, I add edits at the beginning and end of active dialog areas. From there, I use the delete effect button and remove all the in between stuff. Once done, I go into effect mode and enter dialog. I wish the effect would let you loop play while typing, and some other things like that. Sometimes working off the master list works better.

I then export out a DS Caption list with timings, and had a friend create a retimer XSLT file to retime all the captions so I have 23.976, 30 (with pulldown),25fps, etc. I then have another XSLT that makes it into a TAB file and I have a single spreadsheet with all timing for distribution with dialog. I then added character name myself. On on film, I had it translated and the spreadsheet gets that language lined up as a column.


Michal


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