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Pieter Viljoen
16mm film transfer in Pro Res 422HQ
on Nov 26, 2013 at 4:19:47 pm

I've got about an hr of footage, mixed audio came baked in.

I'm wondering if something went wrong in the transfer, because the other edges of some frames are like jello.

Will my Avid 7 without Pro Res codecs in my QT library folder work alright? I'm worried about gamma shift if I go to DNx36.


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Michael Phillips
Re: 16mm film transfer in Pro Res 422HQ
on Nov 26, 2013 at 7:34:58 pm

You will need to load ProRes codecs for decoding the image in order to see it in Media Composer, no way around that. Once you've AMA'd to the ProRes file and assuming it looks correct, there will be no change to the image when transcoding it to DNxHD 36. I would also ask why the need to transcode to 36? If you have the room on your drive you can just consolidate and it will be rewrapped as MXF/ProRes. If you are on Windows, you won't be able to render/transcode back to ProRes which would be a reason to transcode to a full cross platform codec like DNxHD.


Michael


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Pieter Viljoen
Re: 16mm film transfer in Pro Res 422HQ
on Nov 26, 2013 at 7:38:44 pm

What I've never been clear on is that I don't have APR despite being on a mac. I've heard a lot of people download a trial version of compressor or FCPx to get them.

I don't have Sorenson Pro, otherwise I could just make the dailies there. I do have a thunderbolt raid, so the other option is just cutting it natively which I don't normally do.

I agree it would be ideal to keep the same flavor throughout. Will that be possible if I just get some apple software with the pro res codecs?


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Michael Phillips
Re: 16mm film transfer in Pro Res 422HQ
on Nov 26, 2013 at 7:46:24 pm

You don't need an Apple Product to get ProRes codecs:
http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1396


Michael


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Pieter Viljoen
Re: 16mm film transfer in Pro Res 422HQ
on Nov 26, 2013 at 9:15:38 pm

I've tried that before. You get a message saying "Pro Apps QT codecs can't be installed...No qualifying copies of FCP, Motion or Compressor were found."

I abbreviated but yeah, you need apple software.


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Michael Phillips
Re: 16mm film transfer in Pro Res 422HQ
on Nov 26, 2013 at 9:25:29 pm

Well that's strange since they can be installed on windows and you know there's no product there other than iTunes!

Michael


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Pieter Viljoen
Re: 16mm film transfer in Pro Res 422HQ
on Nov 26, 2013 at 11:27:17 pm

Why doesn't AVID include pro res?


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Michael Phillips
Re: 16mm film transfer in Pro Res 422HQ
on Nov 27, 2013 at 12:20:16 am

I suspect because Apple doesn't want the redistributing it or some other terms not satisfactory to either Apple or Avid. Apple owns the codecs, it's in their control.


Michael


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Pieter Viljoen
Re: 16mm film transfer in Pro Res 422HQ
on Nov 26, 2013 at 9:26:52 pm

I always found it weird as well. I'll probably have to follow what some others have done and waste precious space on my SSD with FCP or something like that.


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Michael Phillips
Re: 16mm film transfer in Pro Res 422HQ
on Nov 27, 2013 at 4:35:32 am

Perhaps Compressor only as it may have some use for other tasks.

Michael


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Pieter Viljoen
Re: 16mm film transfer in Pro Res 422HQ
on Nov 27, 2013 at 4:47:46 am

I've got Squeeze. Can compressor do some things Squeeze doesn't?

I do notice it's much more common out in the field with FCP places.


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Michael Phillips
Re: 16mm film transfer in Pro Res 422HQ
on Nov 27, 2013 at 4:59:41 am

It works well with FCP but can work standalone. It's about the same as Squeeze for the common stuff. But for $50 it solves your codec issue.


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