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Pieter Viljoen
Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 24, 2013 at 6:55:44 am

I am doing a favor for someone that recorded an interview outside in the street with a strong wind blowing as you can guess it sounds just incredible. All I can think of is to get into the 16 band EQ and try to bring down some of the noise. What techniques, within 6.5, am I overlooking? Thank you so much


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Peter Groom
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 24, 2013 at 9:28:09 am

Hi
what exactly does it sound like. Overloaded bottom end?
Its not within avid but i use izotope RX to clean up audio like what i suspect this sounds like quite often . The problem with eq is it takes all audio out at a given frequncy, tather than isolating a particular problem
If you upload a short clip that has the problem ill have a look for you.
Peter

Post Production Dubbing Mixer


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Robert Ober
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 24, 2013 at 10:14:56 pm

Yes, What Peter said.

Also, what I first do is sample the noise in a noise reduction plugin if possible to element most or all of the background noise. This of course in an audio program such as Audition. Not sure there is such a plugin in MC or Symphony.

Audacity is free and I believe it has such a plugin.

As far as EQ goes, it depends on the noise characteristics but often you can make progress by rolling off the low frequencies. I did that with some windy beach footage a friend of mine shot.

Hope that helps,
Robert A. Ober


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Pieter Viljoen
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 25, 2013 at 5:50:14 am

Thank you Robert, I will try this tomorrow.


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Pieter Viljoen
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 25, 2013 at 7:02:22 pm

Hi Peter, can I just send you a vimeo link or something?


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Peter Groom
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 25, 2013 at 8:52:40 pm

yes no prob

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Pieter Viljoen
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 25, 2013 at 9:30:58 pm

Hi Peter,

https://vimeo.com/69120454

password is creativecow

Thanks so much for your help. I just included audio that gives you a good sampling of the issue, and Vimeo is the final delivery format so it's as compressed as it's going to be.


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Peter Groom
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 26, 2013 at 3:24:26 pm

Ok Peter
I have a sound file to go back to you. when can i email it?
Peter

Post Production Dubbing Mixer


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Peter Groom
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 26, 2013 at 4:14:30 pm

Or rather where

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Pieter Viljoen
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 26, 2013 at 5:46:07 pm

sure, is my contact info listed here? Are there private messages on creative cow?


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Peter Groom
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 26, 2013 at 8:26:06 pm

HI
I dont see any contact details on your profile. I looked.
Dont think pms are on here no.
youll need to contact me at peter@denefilms.com
Peter

Post Production Dubbing Mixer


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Peter Groom
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 26, 2013 at 9:24:41 pm

I have emailed it to you.let me know if you dont get it
Peter

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Pieter Viljoen
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 26, 2013 at 9:30:59 pm

Hey Peter,

I was not expecting you to actually fix the excerpt, thank you it sounds great. Can you share how you did it, and how I might do it with the tools available to me (Avid MC 6.5, CS6) or any general tips?

Thank you for showing me what is possible, but I'm guessing you used your own set up and are an advanced sound designer. I was just expecting some tips but I appreciate the effort.


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Pieter Viljoen
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 26, 2013 at 9:31:47 pm

I see what you used, sorry for the redundant question.


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Peter Groom
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 26, 2013 at 9:43:33 pm

Hi
You'll not remedy those problems without specialist tools. Isotope ex is a high end tool for fixing tricky problems and even then I sometimes find it can't.
Isotope works as a stand alone tool too so you can run it outside whatever you have and re import the files.
It is time consuming tho . ( the best results invariably are)
There is a free demo but you can't save files. If you're tellies that won't be a problem but it costs a few hundred!

How long is your whole interview you need to include.
It's def true to say its easier to get it right at the recording tho.

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Pieter Viljoen
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 26, 2013 at 9:46:32 pm

Yeah that's what I wanted to know. This is a quick turn around for something and I wouldn't devote the time nor the resources to that, but thanks for the education. It is good to know because as an assistant all you ever do is prep tracks for audio mix so I never do it myself.

Thanks so much


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Robert Ober
Re: Dealing with camera audio
on Jun 27, 2013 at 9:36:21 pm

You'll not remedy those problems without specialist tools. Isotope ex is a high end tool for fixing tricky problems and even then I sometimes find it can't.

Perhaps you use Isotope RX?

Anyway, Audition CS6 (CC is rental software of which I am not a fan) has the Audio Healing Paintbrush which is like the tool in RX and other high end products that allows one to eliminate a particular noise or sound by encircling it or painting it out. Not sure why Adobe has not make more of this. I am not aware of anything else near Audition's price point that has this capability.

I am not connected to Adobe in any way other than a user of several of the products.

Take it EZ,
Robert A. Ober


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