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Phil Hawes
importing Pro Res into AVID 5.0.3
on Mar 8, 2012 at 7:11:57 pm

Hello,

A quick question. Can anyone tell me if I can import a Pro Res HQ file into Media Composer 5.0.3 using AMA. I know this works in Media Composer 5.5 but I have no experience with version 5.0.3.

Thanks,

Phil


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John Pale
Re: importing Pro Res into AVID 5.0.3
on Mar 8, 2012 at 7:22:25 pm

I think AMA in v5 will see anything that you have the Quicktime codec for, but if you want to do anything more than look at it, you should transcode to DNX immediately (or an Avid SD resolution if its not HD).

Performance will be bad. Native support starts in v6.


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Phil Hawes
Re: importing Pro Res into AVID 5.0.3
on Mar 8, 2012 at 7:25:37 pm

How about printing to tape?
Will the performance be good enough for playback?
It will be a SD file output to DigiBeta.


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Shane Ross
Re: importing Pro Res into AVID 5.0.3
on Mar 8, 2012 at 7:43:07 pm

You must convert it to DNxHD. I wouldn't even trust AMA of ProRes QT in MC6 for layback to tape. I'd only trust media in the Avid codec for smooth layback to tape.

Be mindful of the gamma shift.

Shane
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Phil Hawes
Re: importing Pro Res into AVID 5.0.3
on Mar 8, 2012 at 8:09:12 pm

Yes, the gamma shift is what I was trying to avoid.
Seriously is AMA that unreliable in MC6 that you can't even print to tape?


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Shane Ross
Re: importing Pro Res into AVID 5.0.3
on Mar 8, 2012 at 8:14:03 pm

AMA is the means to allow you to ACCESS the footage, as the name implies. If you want to edit that footage, reliably without bogging down the system, you need to convert to Avid media.

Shane
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Phil Hawes
Re: importing Pro Res into AVID 5.0.3
on Mar 8, 2012 at 8:16:23 pm

Access it to what end then, I wonder?


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Shane Ross
Re: importing Pro Res into AVID 5.0.3
on Mar 8, 2012 at 8:19:01 pm

Access it so you can bring it into Media Composer, and then transcode. MC6 allows you to transcode to ProRes MXF...so just re-wrap to MXF...no quality loss.

Shane
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Phil Hawes
Re: importing Pro Res into AVID 5.0.3
on Mar 8, 2012 at 8:19:12 pm

Thank you very much for the informative reply!


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Drew Reynolds
Re: importing Pro Res into AVID 5.0.3
on Mar 8, 2012 at 8:19:18 pm

[Shane Ross] "You must convert it to DNxHD. I wouldn't even trust AMA of ProRes QT in MC6 for layback to tape."

Excuse me for chipping in. Can you expand on that? I have ProRes 422HQ stuff which certainly plays okay in MC6.0.1 on a MacBook Pro from a USB3 drive. Are you saying that isn't good enough to guarantee successful export?


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Shane Ross
Re: importing Pro Res into AVID 5.0.3
on Mar 8, 2012 at 8:24:25 pm

Play it back from start to finish...without stopping. Does it skip or stutter?

I tested with a slew of ProREs footage, editing a smaller project. It was fine at first, but then when the timeline got longer, the system slowed down, and I needed to go to YELLOW for smoother playback. It will work up to a point, but then it bogs down. H.264 from DSLRs was much worse. And interestingly, RED footage took a lot longer to bog things down.

Things might change when Avid can take more advantage of 64 bit processing.

Shane
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Drew Reynolds
Re: importing Pro Res into AVID 5.0.3
on Mar 9, 2012 at 4:12:52 pm

[Shane Ross] "Play it back from start to finish...without stopping. Does it skip or stutter?"

No - it plays flawlessly. It is 20 and 30 minute assemblies of rushes - ProRes422(HQ). At first I tried viewing via USB2 and it was virtually unplayable - jerky and out of sync. So I transcoded some and that played okay - as you'd expect. I then upgraded to USB3 and found the original untranscoded clips and sequences play perfectly. It's just talking head - don't know if that makes a difference.

From what I've read AMA has not been plain sailing - so either I'm just lucky or things are improving.


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