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Alex Desrial
recording slow mo in KiPro
on Dec 16, 2009 at 6:33:34 pm

Hi every one ,

Wondering if some one has tried to use KiPro for slow motion recording ?

I heard, we can't do that in the first firm ware, what if in the 2nd firm ware ?

Thank you.



Alex Desrial
MediaIntegra - Jakarta


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: recording slow mo in KiPro
on Dec 16, 2009 at 6:38:31 pm

VFR is not yet enabled in the Ki Pro. It is a scheduled release for the future, though.

Jeremy


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Alex Desrial
Re: recording slow mo in KiPro
on Dec 16, 2009 at 6:46:09 pm

Hi Jerremy,

Cool....the fastest reply i met. Great !!!

My kipro is scheduled to be with me next month.

for i want to use kipro with my cam, and if i want the slow mo for some of my clips ( arround 3 persen) , what you guys recommend to do ?

Thanks





Alex Desrial
MediaIntegra - Jakarta


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: recording slow mo in KiPro
on Dec 16, 2009 at 7:24:39 pm

What camera?


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Alex Desrial
Re: recording slow mo in KiPro
on Dec 16, 2009 at 7:34:18 pm


cameras like old SONY D50, SONY EX3 or P2

Thank you Jerremy.



Alex Desrial
MediaIntegra - Jakarta


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: recording slow mo in KiPro
on Dec 16, 2009 at 7:39:56 pm

Well if a camera does not support VFR, then you won't get true slow motion, so you will have to do it like any other old camera from tape, and that is warp the frames so they playback slower.

With VFR material, (say 720p50) if you are shooting and editing @ 720p25, you can record 720p50 and simply conform the 50p movies to 25p for half the playback speed or twice the amount of frames per second.

Jeremy


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gary adcock
Re: recording slow mo in KiPro
on Dec 16, 2009 at 8:35:23 pm

[Alex Desrial] "Wondering if some one has tried to use KiPro for slow motion recording ? "

Variable Frame Rate extraction is not yet enabled on the KiPro.

As Jeremy noted shooting off-speed is a camera specific function, so if your camera does not have the ability to capture over or under-cranked content or send that "flagging" info down via HDSDI this may not be the solution for you at this time.

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows for the Digitally Inclined
Chicago, IL


http://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php




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Alex Desrial
Re: recording slow mo in KiPro
on Dec 19, 2009 at 6:03:08 pm

Thanks JG and GA,

Well, supposed that I use ARRIFLEX D21 which has VFR capability while the KiPro does not have the VFR function ( at the moment)

What will happen if I shoot 720p50 material and record it with KiPro ? And what is the result ?

Does KiPro still record any video ( what rate) on the HDD ? or KiPro will not recognize the format then record nothing on the HDD ?

I look forward to know this before i will give it a try in 25 days.

Thank you for both of you.




Alex Desrial
MediaIntegra - Jakarta


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gary adcock
Re: recording slow mo in KiPro
on Dec 21, 2009 at 12:37:11 am

[Alex Desrial] "Well, supposed that I use ARRIFLEX D21 which has VFR capability while the KiPro does not have the VFR function ( at the moment)"

3 problems

the Arri's T-link is a proprietary connection technology that requires 1) a dual link or fibre optic connection to a device that is 2) Capable of capturing 1080p 50/60 content and that is currently only available on modified SRW1 decks or via Stwo or Codex capture devices.

Lastly the D21 does not generate the RP188 VFR protocols the same as those used by Panasonic and others.

"What will happen if I shoot 720p50 material and record it with KiPro ? And what is the result ? "
only SMPTE standard video stream are viewable by Aja devices,
720p50 is recorded as 720p50, what did you expect?


"Does KiPro still record any video ( what rate) on the HDD ?"

The unit records what ever legal video signal it is sent, SD or HD, with all standard PAL or NTSC frame rates.

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows for the Digitally Inclined
Chicago, IL


http://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php




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