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Steve Cassidy
Time code question
on May 21, 2009 at 2:48:53 am

I'll be using the Ki Pro to record the HD-SDI output of a Sony HDC-f950, which, being just a camera and not a camcorder (ala Sony 900) does not have it's own internal time code generator.

If I use a small Horita external timecode generator that's generating time-of-day timecode to feed
tc to the Ki Pro, will the Ki Pro automatically jump into record when it sees moving timecode...or can I still have front panel start, stop, and record control while feeding the Ki Pro continuous timecode ?

Also, what front panel indication does the Ki Pro give you when in record...aside from the record key
being illuminated ? Will it give you a clear indication of record time remaining on the HDD module ?

thanks !

Steve Cassidy


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Time code question
on May 21, 2009 at 4:34:08 am

[Steve Cassidy] "will the Ki Pro automatically jump into record when it sees moving timecode..."

This is an option, yes. It will start when timecode starts moving.


[Steve Cassidy] "or can I still have front panel start, stop, and record control while feeding the Ki Pro continuous timecode ? "

Yes, along with wired LAN or WIFI control panel control that will have start/stop capability for freerun situations.

Future software updates will include a lens tap option along with lanc.


[Steve Cassidy] "Also, what front panel indication does the Ki Pro give you when in record...aside from the record key
being illuminated ?"


TC will be running as well.


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Steve Cassidy
Re: Time code question
on May 21, 2009 at 4:49:05 pm

Thanks Jeremy,

I probably didn't ask that question clearly enough....

I really need to know if I can PREVENT the Ki Pro from jumping into record when it sees incoming moving time code. I want to feed the Ki Pro continuous timecode from an external generator, while being able to control the start, stop, and record functions using just the front panel "transport" buttons.

(we'll be using it in a small helicopter...no room for a laptop or other devices)

You mentioned that the front panel will show timecode, but is it just echoing what it's seeing at the TC input connector, or is it actually displaying what's being recorded to the file ? Let me rephrase that for clarity> If I'm feeding the Ki Pro time-of-day timecode all the time, will the front panel show me timecode only when I'm recording, or is it just going to continuously display what's coming in from the external generator ?

And also, what kind of indication does the Ki Pro give you regarding remaining record time on the hard drive module ?

thanks,

Steve Cassidy


"http://www.cassidyinc.com"
"http://www.cameracopters.com"


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Time code question
on May 21, 2009 at 5:32:09 pm

[Steve Cassidy] "I really need to know if I can PREVENT the Ki Pro from jumping into record when it sees incoming moving time code. I want to feed the Ki Pro continuous timecode from an external generator, while being able to control the start, stop, and record functions using just the front panel "transport" buttons. "

Yes. Like I said, it's an option. You can turn it on or off.

[Steve Cassidy] "(we'll be using it in a small helicopter...no room for a laptop or other devices) "

Even a handheld wifi device (like a cell phone) will be fine, but don't know how that would go with the FAA.


[Steve Cassidy] " If I'm feeding the Ki Pro time-of-day timecode all the time, will the front panel show me timecode only when I'm recording, or is it just going to continuously display what's coming in from the external generator ? "

If you are displaying tc, then it's probably going to show you whatever it's getting fed (like a deck). If it's free run, you will see free run tc. The big red button will show you if you are recording or not.


[Steve Cassidy] "And also, what kind of indication does the Ki Pro give you regarding remaining record time on the hard drive module ? "

There's a percentage meter has to how much is left.

Jeremy


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gary adcock
Re: Time code question
on May 21, 2009 at 8:28:33 pm

[Jeremy Garchow] "[Steve Cassidy] "(we'll be using it in a small helicopter...no room for a laptop or other devices) "
Even a handheld wifi device (like a cell phone) will be fine, but don't know how that would go with the FAA. "


it is my understanding that you need to have a separate wireless access point so that the KiPro and the Phone could communicate and that does indeed mean an issue with the FAA.



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Steve Cassidy
Re: Time code question
on May 22, 2009 at 1:45:48 am

Thanks Gary,

Yes, the wireless access point would be a problem. I'll have just enough room in the cockpit for the Ki Pro and an HDW-S280 as a backup. Besides, we have more than enough RF floating around in there already.

I love my I/O HD....I can't wait to add the Ki Pro. I'm sure that MANY of us have been hoping for this unit for several years !

cheers,

Steve Cassidy


"http://www.cassidyinc.com"
"http://www.cameracopters.com"


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Steve Cassidy
Re: Time code question
on May 22, 2009 at 1:34:28 am

Great Jeremy,

Thanks a bunch....questions answered !

Now....about that June ship date....any further rumblings from Aja about what PART of June ? <**>

I have a large project early in June that would be sooo much better with the Ki Pro. If it's a matter
of a week or two....I might delay it. So if Aja has any idea of an actual delivery date, I sure hope they'll
leak a little hint here and there.

take care,

Steve Cassidy


"http://www.cassidyinc.com"
"http://www.cameracopters.com"


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Time code question
on May 22, 2009 at 3:33:23 am

[Steve Cassidy] "any further rumblings from Aja about what PART of June ?"

It's sometime between the 1st and the 30th. *rimshot

[Steve Cassidy] "So if Aja has any idea of an actual delivery date, I sure hope they'll
leak a little hint here and there. "


I just don't know, Steve. I wish I could tell you for sure.

My advice would be to call around to some dealers and see what they say.

Jeremy


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