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Juanjo Mora
24psf into Final Cut no easy setup, no presets for ioHD?
on May 7, 2009 at 12:59:42 am

Hi to everyone!

We are starting a new project and we are working at 24psf, that's what our new clients asked...

In FCP there's no settings to input 24psf...

If we use AJA VTR Xchange and the IoHD control Panel we can see the signal without problems but can't capture in FCP, why?

Is there a way to capture into FCP at 24psf?

Regards,

Jj

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gary adcock
Re: 24psf into Final Cut no easy setup, no presets for ioHD?
on May 7, 2009 at 1:10:21 pm

[Juanjo Mora] "If we use AJA VTR Xchange and the IoHD control Panel we can see the signal without problems but can't capture in FCP, why? "

you have to turn on the 24.0 setting in the Kona control panel > Setup to have the FCP easy setups installed. This was done to keep the extraneous setups from people that do not use them.


So you see that it does work



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Juanjo Mora
Re: 24psf into Final Cut no easy setup, no presets for ioHD?
on May 7, 2009 at 2:16:22 pm

Hi Gary!

Thanks for your swift answer.

After reading again my own post I realize that I did not make myself completely clear...

That is not my problem: I've had those already enabled and I can see all of the 24p esay setups and options.

The problem we've got is that in FCP there are no settings for 24pSF, that is segmented frame.

That's the signal that our Aaton Keylink outputs. If in FCP I select one of the 24p settings, there's nothing in the capture window...

If I launch the AJA Control Panel the information is correct and the IoHD is recognizing the signal correctly (it says 24psf), if I quit FCP and launch VTR Xchange there's image in the capture window and the signal is correctly recognized as psf.

But FCP doesn't recognize the signal.

Regards,

Jj

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gary adcock
Re: 24psf into Final Cut no easy setup, no presets for ioHD?
on May 7, 2009 at 3:17:11 pm

[Juanjo Mora] "The problem we've got is that in FCP there are no settings for 24pSF, that is segmented frame. "

No there is no 24.0sf set up since even in Hollywood the number of people that work at 24.0 in a video format barely exist. ( no realtime conversion to NTSC for monitoring) and people working from file based workflows have chosen to stay as "true" 24 rather than using 23.98sf

You will need to create an custom easy setup from using the 23.98PsF settings as a guide since the only drawback you were having is FCP.

* FYI- I intimately understand the difference between between P and sF as a transport stream* search on the cow archives will see comments on this confusion from me for over 3 years.



gary adcock
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Juanjo Mora
Re: 24psf into Final Cut no easy setup, no presets for ioHD?
on May 7, 2009 at 4:11:12 pm

Hi Gary!

[gary adcock] "No there is no 24.0sf set up since even in Hollywood the number of people that work at 24.0 in a video format barely exist. ( no realtime conversion to NTSC for monitoring) and people working from file based workflows have chosen to stay as "true" 24 rather than using 23.98sf"

This is very insightful and helps me to understand the context of the existing presets. Thank you!

I was confused because there is a preset for Playback that is clearly labeled 24psf, but there were no presets for Sequence or for Capture and I assumed there had to be an important reason for that.

Indeed, I created my own preset and that was it... but, I just wanted to be completely sure I was not making any blunders.

[gary adcock] "* FYI- I intimately understand the difference between between P and sF as a transport stream* search on the cow archives will see comments on this confusion from me for over 3 years."

I understand this and want to clarify that there was no offense intended in my emphasis of the words 'segmented frame': I always assume that the responsibility of avoiding any misunderstandings lies with the person initiating the conversation (i.e. me)... I just assumed that I was not communicating clearly and tried to solve that, I never intended to offend you. I'm really sorry!

Again, thank you very much.

Jj


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gary adcock
Re: 24psf into Final Cut no easy setup, no presets for ioHD?
on May 7, 2009 at 4:33:11 pm

[Juanjo Mora] "I understand this and want to clarify that there was no offense intended in my emphasis of the words 'segmented frame': I always assume that the responsibility of avoiding any misunderstandings lies with the person initiating the conversation (i.e. me)."

ROTFLMAO...

no offense taken Juanjo, its is rare indeed that someone is as specific about PsF as I am !!!!

all the best.



gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows

Check out
http://www.aja.com/kiprotour/

Inside look at the IoHD
http://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php




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