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Tim Maloney
Stereography Monitoring using Kona 3?
on May 19, 2010 at 10:38:29 pm

Hi All,

Got a Kona 3 and a TV Logic with the two input spigots for 444 monitoring ( which I've never used !!)

Is there a device that would sit between the Kona and the TV Logic that would enable the display of stereo3D images??

I've heard about such a device but cant find it!!!!

Likely workflow is using the upcoming Panasonic S3D cameras

Best

Tim Maloney
Axis Films

Tim Maloney
Managing Director
Axis Films Melbourne Australia
tim@axisfilms.com.au


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Bob Zelin
Re: Stereography Monitoring using Kona 3?
on May 20, 2010 at 1:00:29 am

Kona 3 will support left channel on HD Out 1 and right channel on HD out 2. You don't have to buy anything. Free upgrade. Will the TV Logic do it - probably not.

Bob Zelin




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Tim Maloney
Stereography Monitoring using Kona 3?
on May 20, 2010 at 1:39:19 am

Thanks Bob, noted about the monitor and great news about the upgrade.

Working bacwkards then what sits between the kona 3 and FCS3 to split things L R?

Thanks
Tim Maloney

Tim Maloney
Managing Director
Axis Films Melbourne Australia
tim@axisfilms.com.au


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Shane Ross
Re: Stereography Monitoring using Kona 3?
on May 20, 2010 at 1:45:14 am

[Tim Maloney] "Working bacwkards then what sits between the kona 3 and FCS3 to split things L R? "

Nothing. The Kona 3 will send L out one SDI port and right out another SDI port. What you need is a monitor that is 3D capable. One that will accept the L and the R and mix them properly. At NAB, they had the SDI outs going to Hi-5 adapters, converting that to HDMI, and then they connected that to an HDTV that is 3D capable. Two HDMI inputs.

THAT is what you need.



Shane



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Tim Maloney
Stereography Monitoring using Kona 3?
on May 20, 2010 at 8:58:02 pm

Thanks Shane and Bob,

As I said I get the Kona 3/ Monitor set up - thank you.

I'll have from the Panasonic camera, two cards with the L R captured to each.

So I open log and transfer in FCP and I ................ ?

Can you please fill in the workflow, Do I need to buy any thing other than the screen??

Best

Tim Maloney
Axis Films Australia





Tim Maloney
Managing Director
Axis Films Melbourne Australia
tim@axisfilms.com.au


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Stereography Monitoring using Kona 3?
on May 20, 2010 at 9:03:20 pm

[Tim Maloney] "Can you please fill in the workflow, Do I need to buy any thing other than the screen?? "

This is impossible to predict as nothing is released yet, but maybe plinking around here will help you:

http://pro-av.panasonic.net/en/3d/


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Shane Ross
Re: Stereography Monitoring using Kona 3?
on May 20, 2010 at 10:32:47 pm

Look up CINEFORM... that's what you'll need to conform to. THEIR workflow. It's so new, I don't know it.



Shane



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Tim Maloney
Stereography Monitoring using Kona 3
on May 21, 2010 at 3:55:12 am

Thanks Bob Shane Jeremy,

Off to read about Cineforms neo3d for mac.

Cheers

Tim

Tim Maloney
Managing Director
Axis Films Melbourne Australia
tim@axisfilms.com.au


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gary adcock
Re: Stereography Monitoring using Kona 3?
on May 21, 2010 at 1:50:12 pm

[Tim Maloney] "I'll have from the Panasonic camera, two cards with the L R captured to each.
So I open log and transfer in FCP and I ................ ?
Can you please fill in the workflow, Do I need to buy any thing other than the screen?? "


Tim

there are a whole lotta steps before you get to FCP.

NO you do not use L&T in the Cineform workflow- you will need to handle the content as R & L files- convert them to the Cineform codec and then mux the stereo files inside of Cineform before handing them off to FCP.

You will also need to align the R&L in a frame accurate fashion prior to muxing the images.
you may need to change one of the camera orientations when using an over / under rig.

please remember that left eye is dominant in 3D...

Not to mention you really do need a stereo capable display to view and edit the content correctly.








gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows for the Digitally Inclined
Chicago, IL

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Michael Heldman
Re: Stereography Monitoring using Kona 3?
on May 21, 2010 at 8:56:00 pm

You do not even need a Kona 3. All you need is a card with an HDMI or HDSDI output. Cineform muxes the eyes into a side-by-side image. As far as the card is concerned, it's just another HD signal.

It's the TV that "demuxes" the side by side image and produces a 3d image.

You do need the Kona 3 with some projection systems that require 2 separate streams.

And a warning: Cineform is $3k. There's also "Stereo 3d Toolbox" that's a plugin for FCP. It's less expensive, but requires just about every shot to be rendered. And we all know how good FCP is about keeping track of renders.

Michael Heldman
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