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Peter Wollsey
AJA Kona and Harris Legalizer problem
on Jul 30, 2009 at 7:08:29 pm

Hi all,

I work with FCP, KONA 3 and a Harris broadcast legalizer to make broadcast masters on HDCAM.

Despite sending all signal through the legalizer, I have had several shows knocked back for illegal chroma.

I have checked that all settings on the legalizer are correct. I talked to Harris and they said that the Harris legalizers are made to be used for tape to tape copying only - that is you need to have two HDCAM decks, and copy your un-legalized master to the other deck with the legalizer in between. The Harris engineers say that their products will not necessarily work properly with the signal from a KONA card.

Does anyone know of any other hardware legalizers that will work properly with the signal from a KONA card? I really do not want to have to purchase another HDCAM deck just for this purpose!

Regards,

PW


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: AJA Kona and Harris Legalizer problem
on Jul 30, 2009 at 9:32:56 pm

[Peter Wollsey] "The Harris engineers say that their products will not necessarily work properly with the signal from a KONA card. "

That makes no sense what so ever. Did they tell you why not?


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Bob Zelin
Re: AJA Kona and Harris Legalizer problem
on Jul 31, 2009 at 2:13:13 am

Jeremy is correct. In my opinion, you should get the name of the idiot in tech support at Harris, and contact AJA with his name. AJA should then contact Harris, about the slanderous information they are stating, and correct them.

A SDI signal, is an SDI signal. Videotek legalizers (before Harris bought and ruined the company) were used for YEARS mainly on AVID editing systems - and these were on early Meridian SDI systems, and migrated over the years to our technology today. Todays modern SD-SDI and HD-SDI products are all wonderful - be it from AJA, Blackmagic, AVID, Sony, Panasonic, or anyone else. An SDI signal is an SDI signal, and an HD-SDI processor does not give a damn what the source media is - it examines the incoming video signal, and corrects or limits it's level. The COMPLETE IDIOT MORON at Harris Broadcast needs to be called out (not on Creative Cow), and be corrected, as you have been given mis information.

I have observed this with other fine products from companies like DPS, Leitch and Videotek, all that have been destroyed by the management structure at Harris, since their purchase. What a shame -these were all great companies.

As for the rejection of your tape - you need to tell us EXACTLY why your tape was rejected, to determine what the Legalizer was or was not doing for you.

Bob Zelin




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Bob Zelin
Re: AJA Kona and Harris Legalizer problem
on Jul 31, 2009 at 2:15:08 am

Peter -
I ASSUME that you have an HD-SDI waveform monitor, so that you can examine your levels. I ASSUME that you are not just simply pushing the "legalize" button on the Videotek/Harris legalizer, and just trusting that is working. Do you have a HD-SDI waveform monitor at your facility ? There is no magic here.

Bob Zelin





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Ramona Howard
Re: AJA Kona and Harris Legalizer problem
on Aug 1, 2009 at 3:03:18 am


You have to also remember that you can push far more than the legal limit over SDI, maybe the Harris product simply can only detect to a certain level?

certainly explains the deck to deck comment. Get your self a waveform monitor, you will be good. Also, doesn't the product pushing the video offer the ability to clamp down to legal limits properly, that is basic stuff these days.

Cheers,
Ramona





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Bob Zelin
Re: AJA Kona and Harris Legalizer problem
on Aug 1, 2009 at 2:22:02 pm

I have great empathy for Peter as he suffers thru this problem, and this insanity, while at the same time, right now, people on the Cow Broadcast Video forum are stating that "anything" goes on air, and no one cares about levels, or color bars or anything else.

Creative Cow is wonderful for observing the world we live in.

Bob Zelin




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