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mike faulkner
aja kona + Sony deck
on Jul 1, 2007 at 11:19:20 am

I have a new set up and wonder if any one can help

- Apple mac pro 2 x 2.66 dual core intel xeon with 5 gig of ram. plus I have set up 3 of the 4 drives as a raid
- AJA kona LHe
- sony HVR-M15J deck
- jvc monitor
- FCP Studio 2 + AE 7

I am a little bit confused of the cabling, I have been recommended to connect
- out of the sony deck to the Aja card via component
- in to the card [from the sony deck] via composite
- in the the monitor via composite [from the sony deck]

but what about via firewire? use this as well or not at all

- also what are the recommended sequence settings for FCP for both SD and HD?

lots of questions, thanks for your help in advance
regards
Mike faulkner


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walter biscardi
Re: aja kona + Sony deck
on Jul 1, 2007 at 1:59:21 pm

[mike faulkner] "- out of the sony deck to the Aja card via component
- in to the card [from the sony deck] via composite"


That sound redundant. You only need to make one connection to the AJA card, I would recommend Component.

[mike faulkner] "- in the the monitor via composite [from the sony deck]"

No, I would go Component from the AJA Card to the monitor. You want to monitor your editing system. You could also connect directly to the monitor via Composite from the deck so you could monitor that signal when making a recording.



[mike faulkner] "
but what about via firewire? use this as well or not at all"


Not unless you plan to capture in the HDV or DV codec. It's not needed otherwise.

[mike faulkner] "- also what are the recommended sequence settings for FCP for both SD and HD?"

There really aren't any recommended setups. You simply set up for whatever format / frame rate you want to edit in or that matches your footage.

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mike faulkner
Re: aja kona + Sony deck
on Jul 2, 2007 at 2:05:34 pm

hi walter thanks for quick response



||||||||||| [mike faulkner] "- out of the sony deck to the Aja card via component
|||||||||||- in to the card [from the sony deck] via composite"

|||||||||||That sound redundant. You only need to make one connection to the AJA card, I would recommend Component.


Forgot to mention sony deck is component out only,
but composite in and out

what do you recommend



||||||||||| [mike faulkner] "- in the the monitor via composite [from the sony deck]"
||||||||||| No, I would go Component from the AJA Card to the monitor. You want to monitor your editing system.
||||||||||| You could also connect directly to the monitor via Composite from the deck so you could monitor that signal when making a recording.

okay


||||||||||| [mike faulkner] "
||||||||||| but what about via firewire? use this as well or not at all"

||||||||||| Not unless you plan to capture in the HDV or DV codec. It's not needed otherwise.

I will occasionally use DV codec, so I guess I can hook the deck up with both Firewire and component.
how does the deck and computer tell the difference
I am guessing in FCP set ups?


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Wayne Carey
Re: aja kona + Sony deck
on Jul 3, 2007 at 5:38:57 pm

Mike, you use the firewire for machine control only. Unless you want to use the deck for DV video then firewire is your best bet.

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mike faulkner
Re: aja kona + Sony deck
on Jul 3, 2007 at 6:38:56 pm

firstly thanks walt and wayne for responding
I sometime feel I know nothing.

wayne are you saying use firewire only?
or firewire to control deck and use other connections?

cheers
Mike


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Wayne Carey
Re: aja kona + Sony deck
on Jul 3, 2007 at 7:11:56 pm

[mike faulkner] "wayne are you saying use firewire only?
or firewire to control deck and use other connections?"


Personally, I'd rather use the Component connection with firewire for machine control. But this has been a big debate here because firewire is a fully digital signal and component is an analog signal. I know that Walter would say use firewire. That's fine, too. It all depends on your particular workflow that you are used to using. Neither is wrong and both are right. So, its totally up to you what you want to use.

That is the awesome part of using FCP! Its up to you on what you want to do. That's a freedom that I welcome wholly!

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mike faulkner
Re: aja kona + Sony deck
on Jul 3, 2007 at 8:20:47 pm

so wayne you recomend component 'out' of my sony deck with firewire, and firewire back out of my mac into the sony deck?

will this still utlise my kona card when dumping stuff onto tape?

do I really need to get HDV to SDI convertor?
like
http://www.convergent-design.com/CD_Products_HDConnectSI.htm
what advantages does this have?

thanks for your help
mike


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Wayne Carey
Re: aja kona + Sony deck
on Jul 5, 2007 at 12:05:41 pm

Well, Mike... I only suggest this if you are using HDV with other formats like we do. Personally, I don't like editing in HDV because of the processor intensive nature of the codec. Its harder on a system than ProRes422.

We have a mixture of HDV and XDCAM HD, so its easier for us to edit in DVCProHD or ProRes422. Therefore, my Sony HVR-M10U is connected component to an AJA HD10AVA converter box to SDI into my Kona 3. And it works great. Besides, I'm an old school video guy that has gotten used to log and capture because of the amount of control you have over your project.

There's no wrong way or right way of doing this. If you are just solely HDV, then capture firewire and edit HDV, then write back to HDV for your final product. The Kona card will purely be a monitoring output. Many people edit HDV this way everyday.

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mike faulkner
Re: aja kona + Sony deck
on Jul 5, 2007 at 2:33:42 pm

thanks Wayne
I think I am slowly understanding :-)
we intend to capture HDV material off our sony camera, we also have DV material that we want to work with

I think we will copy a set up like yours. probably edit in ProRes422

I guess we need to buy a hd10AVA box or will something like IO HD box do something similar?

what advantages wil I get from IO HD box?

mike






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Wayne Carey
Re: aja kona + Sony deck
on Jul 5, 2007 at 3:22:57 pm

[mike faulkner] "I guess we need to buy a hd10AVA box or will something like IO HD box do something similar?

what advantages wil I get from IO HD box?"


If you can afford the $3500 price tag, go for it! The AJA IO HD would be an awesome piece to add to your arsenal. It will do everything you need and them some...

The advantage for you is the fact that ProRes422 is built into this box. Meaning all of the processing necessary will be done in the IO HD, not your computer. That is an awesome feature to have because it you don't have a Mac Pro Quad or Octo Core system, ProRes422 will choke. The IO HD solves this problem for people who don't have these computers. Besides, you'll be able to do ANY video codec except Uncompressed with this box - SD and HD. And if you have a Kona card, the Uncompressed is taken care of with that card.

My suggestion... bite the bullet and get an AJA IO HD. It will be your savior!

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