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walter biscardi
AJA Io HD
on Apr 15, 2007 at 10:07:25 pm

Too cool! Essentially a Kona 3 in a box! More soon, editing the Podcast now!

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David Battistella
Re: AJA Io HD
on Apr 15, 2007 at 10:10:48 pm



Wild!

What's it going to retail at?

David

Peace and Love :)


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Jeremy Newmark
Re: AJA Io HD
on Apr 15, 2007 at 10:33:57 pm

It sounds like retail price is $3495, available in July.


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Mark Burton
Re: AJA Io HD
on Apr 15, 2007 at 10:43:14 pm

I wonder if it will still have the inherent delay associated with FW connected boxes?


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Andy Edwards
Re: AJA Io HD
on Apr 15, 2007 at 10:53:42 pm

Maybe that is why it has FW800 vs. FW400. HDMI on the box could be the new input output as well.

Andy


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Larry Asbell
Re: AJA Io HD
on Apr 15, 2007 at 11:01:54 pm

[walter biscardi] "Too cool! Essentially a Kona 3 in a box! "

Just what I was wondering. Then for a Mac tower user the Kona 3 is still the item? Is there anything that the I/O HD offers that a Kona 3 can't do?

One thing is the HDMI in and out but that can be added outboard.

- Larry Asbell


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Kevin Wild
Re: AJA Io HD
on Apr 15, 2007 at 11:45:52 pm

Yes, the Kona3 can do uncompressed. This box cannot. It is firewire based so it must have a pretty decent compression to go real-time, from what I gather. I think that is why the new codec is built into the box.

What I do not know, is can it feed other codecs like DVC Pro HD through it? It seems not, as of now...

KW


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walter biscardi
Re: AJA Io HD
on Apr 16, 2007 at 12:12:58 am

[Kevin Wild] "Yes, the Kona3 can do uncompressed. This box cannot. It is firewire based so it must have a pretty decent compression to go real-time, from what I gather. I think that is why the new codec is built into the box."

That codec is NOT built into the box, it's built into the new Final Cut Studio 6. It's the new Apple ProRes 4:2:2 codec and it's a gorgeous codec. Apple did a bunch of split screens and from the second row of the audience I could not really tell the difference between 10bit Uncompressed HD and the ProRes 4:2:2 but some folks sitting a little further back though they could see some difference.

I'll have to play with that codec vs. DVCPro HD when I can. But holy smokes, what a great little box and we give it props for the flashing light quotient.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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JeremyG
Re: AJA Io HD
on Apr 15, 2007 at 11:46:25 pm

[Larry Asbell] "Is there anything that the I/O HD offers that a Kona 3 can't do? "

LTC in and out. Hopefully that means FCP can run in non controllable device mode, and be able to capture from a source (like a camera) without RS-422 or a deck. That would be way sweet and extremely useful. A truly portable capture station with ProRes. I could have used that over the past two days!


Jeremy





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Andy Edwards
Re: AJA Io HD....specs online now
on Apr 15, 2007 at 11:55:06 pm

http://aja.com/html/products_Io_IoHD.html

Andy


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Kevin Wild
Re: AJA Io HD....specs online now
on Apr 16, 2007 at 12:20:43 am

Walter, unless I'm wrong, the codec is built into the box.

"Io HD is the only device in the world that supports Apple


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JeremyG
Re: AJA Io HD....specs online now
on Apr 16, 2007 at 12:22:58 am

Yeah, if you watch the little movie on AJA, Nick Rashby says the codec is in the hardware. Sweet for acceleration.

Jeremy


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Ken Zukin
Re: AJA Io HD....specs online now
on Apr 16, 2007 at 12:31:05 am

Here's the AJA movie - taken from the Apple FCP site:
http://aja.com/html/products_Io_IoHD.html


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walter biscardi
Re: AJA Io HD....specs online now
on Apr 16, 2007 at 12:45:54 am

[Kevin Wild] "Io HD is the only device in the world that supports Apple


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Ken Zukin
here's the AJA link
on Apr 16, 2007 at 12:55:16 am

the link I meant to post: http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/action/?movie=aja


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gary adcock
Re: AJA Io HD....specs online now
on Apr 16, 2007 at 1:58:10 pm

[Kevin Wild] " Walter, unless I'm wrong, the codec is built into the box.
"{Io HD is the only device in the world that supports Apple


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Danrnw
Re: AJA Io HD
on Apr 16, 2007 at 1:40:55 am

[JeremyG] "LTC in and out. Hopefully that means FCP can run in non controllable device mode, and be able to capture from a source (like a camera) without RS-422 or a deck. That would be way sweet and extremely useful. A truly portable capture station with ProRes. I could have used that over the past two days!
Jeremy"


That will be the first thing I ask them tomorrow at their booth,
assuming I can find someone available to ask.
This is really needed for those of us that do multicam work and want
Hard Disk recording with simultaneous timecode in the field.

Dan



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Kevin Wild
Re: AJA Io HD
on Apr 16, 2007 at 2:12:28 am

This is exactly what I was thining about this cool box: a field solution to capture DVCProHD-like quality straight in from HD SDI cameras like the Canon H1 that we use. It would be great to stay out of HDV altogether.

Note it's not a truly portable solution, as it doesn't do batteries.

Now, I wonder how we can integegrate this with a Firestore device or a harddrive that can handle the Pro422. (besides a Macbook Pro...still not keen on dealing with a laptop to record.)

This opens a lot of ideas...

KW


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Joe Murray
Re: AJA Io HD
on Apr 16, 2007 at 2:24:53 am

So I guess this means the IO forum will really come alive again. Any word on whether the Kona 3 firmware can be upgraded to "imbed" the ProRes 4:2:2 codec as on the IO HD or is that even necessary? Maybe just a driver upgrade instead?

Joe Murray


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Kevin Wild
Re: AJA Io HD
on Apr 16, 2007 at 2:45:33 am

I'm guessing here, but I don't think the other Kona products need to do this. I think the IO HD needs to compress realtime FIRST because then the signal is traveling down FW800. With a dedicated card, the bandwidth would be fine to do uncompressed until software...then pick your codec like you do now, only pick the Pro422, if desired.

Not sure I'm correct on this, but it makes sense. AJA will have to release additional support for the Codec, but I would think this is going to happen.


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AJA Sales Department
Re: AJA Io HD
on Apr 16, 2007 at 2:48:13 am

Spot on :)

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