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Morten Ranmar
Cloud could become host for video media management
on Sep 30, 2013 at 9:22:59 pm

Adobe is including storage for the CC subscriptions, and is pushing to become a place where media can be shared. And with the new features of Prelude, they could soon be offering a Media Management solution.

What if Prelude had the option to add more Meta-data for search ability? And was able to easily create a light proxy of each video file, and upload / share that to the Cloud storage?

Prelude should afterwards be able to access the data on the cloud, and show in a catalog view. The same catalog should be available through a web interface, where annotations and notes could be added from invited users. Maybe even more Adobe Apps could share this function?

The result would be a media management system not very much unlike CatDV.

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Gary Huff
Re: Cloud could become host for video media management
on Oct 1, 2013 at 2:30:28 am

The problem stems in that "light proxy" idea...first, I am done with transcoding, second, anything fast enough to bely point #1 is going to look poor, and I don't want to have that conversation with a client trying to comfort them that the actual video looks better. Been there, done that, don't wish to replay.

This whole cloud paradigm for video is really hamstrung by the need to overhaul our Internet infrastructure, at least for those of us not working for a production house.

Now if I get Google Fiber, then I'm totally leaving the rest of you in the dust!


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Bill Davis
Re: Cloud could become host for video media management
on Oct 1, 2013 at 3:30:08 am

Kinda sorta makes you wonder if the zillions Apple has spent over the past few years in North Carolina and Oregon might be envisioning this same type of future?

Difference, of course, is that instead of leasing the massive storage capacity from some third party - they're already quite a few years into doing ground up "bricks and mortar" infa-structure creation.

They've already got the lions share of the music business pre-recorded audio up there. Movies would likely be the next step. But with the MASSIVE storage needs of doing on-line storage of actual footage from the entire Creative Cloud enterprise ecosystem, that would be a very interesting play.

The size of the files that even I, a simple corporate video guy working in AZ can generate over a year, would NOT scale very well over, say, even 100,000 typical pro video content creators.

It's one thing to store and forward one movie for 10,000 potential viewers. A totally different thing to store Bill's RAW FOOTAGE for 50 clients - times 10,000 producers like me.

Plus considering the "upload penalty" we all deal with now, I can't imagine this working unless uploads speeds get orders of magnitude better.

So I'm not gonna hold my breath for this one.

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Andrew Kimery
Re: Cloud could become host for video media management
on Oct 1, 2013 at 5:23:06 am

This could be a possibility with Adobe Anywhere down the line but I would be surprised to see it go the path of uploading low rez proxy footage to a remote server.




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Shawn Miller
Re: Cloud could become host for video media management
on Oct 1, 2013 at 7:25:27 pm

[Gary Huff] "This whole cloud paradigm for video is really hamstrung by the need to overhaul our Internet infrastructure, at least for those of us not working for a production house."

Overhauling the infrastructure is a good step... but what to do about the virtual monopoly that big service providers have over bandwidth? Personally, I think internet infrastructure should be a public utility like water and power... more socialism I guess. :-)

Shawn



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Christopher Russell
Re: Cloud could become host for video media management
on Oct 2, 2013 at 12:53:04 am

I agree but there is too much money and power involved.

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Chris Pettit
Re: Cloud could become host for video media management
on Oct 1, 2013 at 1:55:28 pm

I uploaded an Interactive touchscreen application yesterday (for single client download from my server) with compressed HD h264 video assets totaling 3.8 GB.

It took 1 hour to upload.

A videographer I work with brought an uncompressed 444 peice of video here the other day, a single clip was 4GB.

I don't see how this works anytime soon in a practical sense. The upload speeds are nowhere near what they would need to be.


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Morten Ranmar
Re: Cloud could become host for video media management
on Oct 1, 2013 at 6:17:59 pm

Agree that today this vision is not doable, but it would be a great future perspective.

Adobe could still offer a Media Management solution as described - just with local storage options...

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Chris Pettit
Re: Cloud could become host for video media management
on Oct 1, 2013 at 11:50:52 pm

I agree, it would be great if we can get there at some point. I haven't used prelude, but it looks promising. Proxies don't excite me, but I can see how this could be very productive for bigger houses and collaborations


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Dave LaRonde
Cloud, Schmoud
on Oct 3, 2013 at 3:43:03 am

And again I say it: Cloud, schmoud.

Despite what has been written, I prefer to keep my footage as my own. When it comes to the security of cloud storage -- i.e. no one can get to your stuff -- I don't trust the bastards.

Not to mention that ANY law enforcement agency in the United States can subpoena Adobe to see your files. No court order needed. Just a subpoena. Really. You've put them on publicly-available storage system, thus you've lost your right to the privacy of your files.

I'll buy hard drives, thank you very much....

Dave LaRonde
Former Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Andrew Kimery
Re: Cloud, Schmoud
on Oct 3, 2013 at 7:04:19 pm

[Dave LaRonde] "Not to mention that ANY law enforcement agency in the United States can subpoena Adobe to see your files. No court order needed. Just a subpoena. Really. You've put them on publicly-available storage system, thus you've lost your right to the privacy of your files.
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Considering everything else we use "the cloud" for (banking/credit cards, email, texting/messaging, on lin purchases, phone calls, GPS-based services if you have a smart phone, etc.,) I'm not really concerned about uploading footage. Hell, as far back as 2001 I've worked at companies where it was common place to uploaded cuts for client approval.




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Dave LaRonde
Re: Cloud, Schmoud
on Oct 4, 2013 at 12:24:20 am

http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2013/10/02/228134269/your-digita...


It makes you want to re-think the nasty habit of becoming enamored with, and then relying upon, the latest technology as soon as possible. Or at least figure out ways to protect yourself.

Dave LaRonde
Former Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV (ABC) Cedar Rapids, IA


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