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Jeroen de Haar
JVC GZ-HD3 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Jan 20, 2010 at 5:22:05 pm

Dear everybody.

I have a macbook pro 17" (newest generation) with a firewire 800 (9 pins) and a JVC GZ-HD3 camcorder (4 pins). I also have a firewire cable to connect those with each other.

My problem.
The camera record files (.TOD). There is a way to import this in FCP but this works very slow. FCP crashed a lot (no option for me). I thought 'capture with firewire like a dv camcorder, and problem solved', well I can tell you, it doesn't. FCP didn't recognized my camera, when I select 'Log and Capture' function I got this message.
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Unable to initialize capture device
Device is not connected or the capture preset is not setup correctly. You may still log offline clips.

This might also happen if you play DV footage in an HDV device.
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I've searched the web but I couldn't find anything about it.

Please could someone help me?

I look forward to your response.

Bye

P.s. I don't want to convert files (.TOD > .MOV) the Quality is not very well.


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Jeroen de Haar
Re: JVC GZ-HD3 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Nov 3, 2010 at 12:44:41 pm

Hi Ben.
Yes I am still looking for a better way to do this because I convert the files first to Apple Intermediate Codec but this takes a lot of time so I am very curious about the way you do it.

Regards, Jeroen.


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Jeroen de Haar
Re: JVC GZ-HD3 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Nov 3, 2010 at 8:17:03 pm

I didn't get it work yet. This is what I have done.

File > Log and Capture and then I see a window.
I can't select any presets but FCP recognize my camera. When I play footage on my camera, FCP recognizes it and the stop button moves to the play button. When I pause it FCP moves to the stop button. I don't see any footage on my screen, it stays black, even when I play footage filmed in 1440CBR mode. Normally I shoot in XP mode but someone told me to try it in 1440CBR.

Could you maybe a little more specific in explaining how to do this.
I use Final cut pro 6.0.6 (belongs to Final cut pro studio 2).

I hope you can help me.
Thanks.


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Jeroen de Haar
Re: JVC GZ-HD3 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Nov 3, 2010 at 9:38:38 pm

Hi Ben.
Thank you very much, this is truly the solution I was looking for, for a long time.

It's sad that it only works in the 1440CBR mode because all the movies I have shoot are XP but I will convert them and from now on I gonna film in 1440CBR.

Thank you so much. I will vote this answer 'solution'.
Greets


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Jeroen de Haar
Re: JVC GZ-HD3 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Nov 3, 2010 at 10:28:14 pm

Really nice that you got a new one:)
I'm happy that it finally works. As you can see I have posted this question in January and after a while I have the answer. Again Thanks:)


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Ian Reddick
Re: JVC GZ-HD3 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Mar 19, 2011 at 8:00:44 pm

Ben, you are god among men. I have been looking for this exact solution for a very long time. The GZ-HD3 is my disposable back-up camera that I don't care if it gets broken. No matter how any times I have tried I have not been able to import or capture and most times I rely on mpeg streamclip to covert. Needless to say that is a long and tiresome process with less than mediocre results. I was about to sell the camera when I found this post with your instructions. The secret menu was the key I have been looking for!

Thank you for taking the time to write out these instructions.


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Steve Davies
Re: JVC GZ-HD3 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Jun 16, 2011 at 12:26:11 pm

Hi Folks

this is driving me bananas - trying to get the secret button to work.
I can see that it goes to DUBBING PLAYBACK as per the instructions above, but then it doesnt seem to process anything - it is all too quick. It reverts to the previous screen. I have a sense that this is simple ....but I must be doing something wrong. Help...please?

Thanks for your attention

Steve


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Jonathan Ziegler
Re: JVC GZ-HD3 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Jun 1, 2012 at 10:16:29 pm

Hey I was just looking for this exact tutorial for JVC GZ-HD3U. Same basic steps and the little hidden menu, too. This will save me hours.

Thanks!

Jonathan Ziegler
http://www.electrictiger.com/
520-360-8293


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Jeroen de Haar
Re: JVC GZ-HD3 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Jun 2, 2012 at 1:40:47 am

It's good to see that people still helped with this question. It might be 2010 that I've asked this question and right now I have another camera (Canon XA10) but it's quite strange that it is so ""hard"" to get this done.

Good luck all :).


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Okechukwu Holmes
JVC SR-DVM600 3-in-1 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Dec 25, 2010 at 4:32:13 pm

Hi,
I'm in a fix right now. got the 27'' Mac system with firewire 800 port, got the cable (9 to 4 pin)
connected and it still cant see my JVC SR-DVM600 3-in-1 deck. pls, what setting do i need to do?
Thanks


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Jeroen de Haar
Re: JVC SR-DVM600 3-in-1 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Dec 25, 2010 at 9:02:13 pm

Hi
Are you sure your deck doesn't work at all on your mac or does it work but you don't see any footage. I have had that with my camera. When i pressed the play button i saw that something changed on my screen but i didn't saw any frames at all. Make sure your mac recognizes your deck. Maybe you can try to connect it an go to the apple update application. Than you are sure that you have at least all the drivers you need.

I don't know much about the decks so i cant help you further with this problem but maybe this will work else i hope you can find someone who can help you.

Good luck!


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Okechukwu Holmes
Re: JVC SR-DVM600 3-in-1 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Dec 26, 2010 at 1:46:11 pm

Thanks for you response.
There's no communication between my deck & MAC yet, I'm quite sure about that because when i start final cut it tells me "unable to locate the following external devices: Apple Firewire PAL (720 x 576)". Still hoping...


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Jeroen de Haar
Re: JVC SR-DVM600 3-in-1 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Dec 26, 2010 at 4:57:54 pm

What you trying to do now is Batch and Transfer or Log an Transfer maybe you should try the other one. I know that one of those doesn't worked either in my case.

Also take a look into your Finder window or Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility to find out that your mac recognizes your device. Maybe it does and Final cut doesn't.

I hope this information helps you, if you think it's 'crap' please tell me, i'm not familiar with this product but this is what i should try.

Good luck again!


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Okechukwu Holmes
Re: JVC SR-DVM600 3-in-1 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Dec 26, 2010 at 9:28:04 pm

I've try all that, still on same spot. i even got a different camcoder to capture or edit to tape still final cut can not recognize it


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Dean Miles
Re: JVC GZ-HD3 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Sep 24, 2012 at 2:02:18 pm

Can anyone help please. I have a JVC GZ-HD3E camcorder. I also have a IMac and Mac air both are running mountain lion. Is it possible to stream the cameras output via the firewire port on the camera. I have tried connecting both to the iMac's firewire port and also though the thunderbolt connection on the air. When I try to view the camera in say..Quicktime or iMovie both applications it sees the camera as it lists it in the selecting input options, but when selected they will it show any vision. Is it possible? what am i doing wrong do i need another driver or something?

All suggest greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Dean


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Jonathan Ziegler
Re: JVC GZ-HD3 Capture (firewire) to Final Cut Pro
on Sep 24, 2012 at 10:05:15 pm

Okay, the following is a process I've used in the past to control the HD3 when I've needed to. The steps say "HD7," but the menus are the same. The trick isn't with your computer, it's in getting the camera to stream the output and then you record via Firewire as a non-controllable device. BTW: these steps were culled from a couple different sources and I am not the original author, but I can confirm this works at least through Final Cut Studio 2&3 up to OS 10.7.?. I don't know about iMovie, FCP X, Premiere, Quicktime, or any other apps, you'll just have to experiment.

Here goes:

Ok, you must follow specific steps to get it to work and make sure you shoot in 1440CBR, which is actually better quality than FHD because it's a constant bitrate of 27mbps while FHD is only 26.6 i think. Someone already posted the steps on another forum, so here's a quote, but all credit is due to that person for typing out the lengthy process...

"STEP 1: Set your HD7's video quality setting to [1440CBR].

STEP 2: Record some video. When you're done recording, go to STEP 3.

STEP 3: In your HD7's output menu, set the i.LINK OUTPUT to [1440CBR] then exit the menu.

STEP 4: Put your HD7 into PLAYBACK mode. Once you see the screen with your clip thumbnails, hit the [F] for function button. Select EDIT PLAYLIST with the joystick thing and click it.

STEP 5: In the EDIT PLAYLIST menu, select NEW LIST and click it. In the next menu you may choose to select scenes by EVENT, DATE or ALL SCENES. Let's choose ALL SCENES for the purpose of this exercise.

STEP 6: You are now in the "making-a-playlist screen". Remembering you can only batch capture the [1440CBR] clips, select some of your video and put it into the playlist on the right-hand side of the screen by clicking the joystick thing indiscriminately.

STEP 7: When you're satisfied with the content and order of your new playlist, move the joystick thing back to the left until you are queried "Save edited contents?" Select SAVE AND QUIT and you'll be transported back to the screen with your clip thumbnails.

STEP 8: This is where things get tricky. Hit the [F] for function button. Select PLAYBACK PLAYLIST with your joystick thing and click it. Select the playlist you have just created (more than likely the most recent one but there's a handy thumbnail displayed for each playlist in case you become confused and disoriented). DO NOT PRESS THE JOYSTICK THING!

STEP 9: Move the joystick thing to the RIGHT - DO NOT PRESS THE JOYSTICK THING. A new "secret" menu will appear - DUBBING PLAYBACK. This really is the crux of the matter. Playing a playlist by clicking the joystick thing will NOT output to firewire. Sure, iMovieHD will pick up the camera and tell you what it is doing, but it won't receive any data. FCP won't even detect the stoopid camera. Remember, the "secret" is to move the joystick thing to the RIGHT and get into the DUBBING PLAYBACK menu. Once you know that you can figure the rest out easily enough. In case you can't, I'll go on.

STEP 10: Connect your HD7 to your computer with a Firewire/i.Link cable. Open FCP or iMovieHD (or whatever passes for editing software on PCs these days). If you have FC6 then good for bloody you, go to the next step. If you're also a hero and still using FC5 then make a custom setup a bit like this:
Sequence preset --> HD7 - 1440x1080i50 - AIC
Capture preset --> HDV - Apple Intermediate Codec
Device Control preset --> Non-controllable device

STEP 11: Create a new Project using the new Custom Setup then select LOG AND CAPTURE. You'll have to enter a title for the new Sequence. Go back to the other end of the firewire cable (to the HD7) and click your way through the HD7's menus until it starts to dub the playlist to FCP. The [1440CBR] footage is now being captured by your trusty Mac."


Thank you again for whoever wrote that all out, I would not have the patience to do it. Anyway, that's how you do it step by step in final cut 6, at least that's how i do it and I hope it works.

Jonathan Ziegler
http://www.electrictiger.com/
520-360-8293


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