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ali hussain
rendering lateness
on Nov 20, 2014 at 10:29:14 pm

Rendering with AME is taking so freaking long and I am not using that much of an complex effects.
I have pretty good hardware as well so i cant figure out the problem
Hardware specification :
Dell - NoteBook Inspiron 15R
i7 4500U dual cores
16 GB of RAM
AMD Raedon 8600M HD series , support Open GL , Open CL
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Basically I am creating a montage of something that i used 3 camera to shot it from different views
2 cam is shooting full HD with 29.97Fps
1 cam is shooting full HD as well but with 24Fps
I am trying to encode it with Youtube HDTV 1080p 29.97Fps , the rendering time that is shown is 7 hour and my montage is 19 Minuet only
so any one could help me with that ? Am I missing something ? ...


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Graham Macfarlane
Re: rendering lateness
on Nov 20, 2014 at 11:36:50 pm

Hi Ali,

What is your source footage encoded to and is it being read from locally or over a network?

Graham Macfarlane - CGI specialist
Elyarch Ltd - London UK

3D Studio Max | Vray | Pflow | PhoenixFD | After effects | Mocha


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ali hussain
Re: rendering lateness
on Nov 21, 2014 at 11:23:40 am

Hi Graham ,
thanks for replying
the footage is encoded with mov format that is not supported with after effects but it is ok with adobe premier and i am reading it locally not over network .
@Graham Macfarlane


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Graham Macfarlane
Re: rendering lateness
on Nov 21, 2014 at 4:44:00 pm

The mov format is a container file type. What is more useful to know is the actual codec used within this container (for example H.264, Mpeg4, Motion Jpeg etc…)

Graham Macfarlane - CGI specialist
Elyarch Ltd - London UK

3D Studio Max | Vray | Pflow | PhoenixFD | After effects | Mocha


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ali hussain
Re: rendering lateness
on Nov 21, 2014 at 10:19:19 pm

I am not sure which codec but i can not open it with after effects , only premiere could open .

"After Effects: One of the output modules could not be imported. It has been reset to use the default setting for the selected file format."
I tried to google them and that is what i got :

AviImporter.component
FFusion.component
iChatTheaterPreview.component
IMXCodec.component
XviD_Codec.component
AppleHDVCodec.component
AppleIntermediateCodec.component
AppleMPEG2Codec.component
AppleProResCodec.component
DesktopVideoOut.component
DVCPROHDCodec.component
DVCPROHDMuxer.component
DVCPROHDVideoDigitizer.component
DVCPROHDVideoOutput.component
DVCPROHDVideoOutputClock.component
DVCPROHDVideoOutputCodec.component
FCP Uncompressed 422.component
LiveType.component

@Graham Macfarlane


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Ryan Holmes
Re: rendering lateness
on Nov 21, 2014 at 2:42:59 pm

What is your source footage?
What are format are you encoded to?
Where does your source footage reside (local drive, SAN, RAID, etc.)?
Where are you writing the output file to?
What type of effects do you have on your footage? After Effects dynamic link compositions? Color correction?
Is OpenCL rendering turned on in AME?

As an aside, the computer you list is not particularly strong for this type of work. Buying a budget laptop works fine for editing footage, but typically you feel the pain at this stage - transcoding. On many consumer laptops when you run parallel processes like exporting (CPU and GPU at the same time) the system will drop the clock speed of either the CPU or GPU (or both) in order to save power and not overheat. So where you save money on the purchase, you'll lose time in the long run because it's not as fast as a higher end laptop/workstation.

Ryan Holmes
http://www.ryanholmes.me
@CutColorPost


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ali hussain
Re: rendering lateness
on Nov 22, 2014 at 6:19:28 am

1. source footage : Mov , 29.97fps , i am not sure what is its codec but its not supported by after effects , only premiere could open it .
2. I used youtube hdtv 1080p 29.97fps preset to encode it .
3. local drive
4. local drive as well , not external drive also
5. well , i only use RGB curves to create a contrast but a lot of transition , and i yes i used the dynamic link with after effects to add a text animation but it is not that complex of an animation .
6. as for open cl rendering i did not find it in the AME setting or preference , i do not know how can i enable it .
I did not know that this laptop was that bad and working with 3d is worst than that
do you have a solution for me , should i change the mother board or my graphics or what be cause at the moment i can not buy another work station .

@Ryan Holmes


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Graham Macfarlane
Re: rendering lateness
on Nov 22, 2014 at 9:37:55 am

It’s difficult to say what the problem could be.

Just in case of software conflict, make sure you don’t have any other programs running alongside AME when you render.
If you have access to another computer try rendering on that to see if you get similar render times, (taking into consideration any spec differences between computers).

Beyond this, I suggest a process of elimination:

I assume you’re main edit is from Premiere, so, does the render run faster if you render directly in Premiere?

If still slow then AME may not be at fault. Try switching off the After Effects text animation, since the AE dynamic link might be causing problems. Render and see if it’s quicker.

Next disable all effects in Premiere, render again.

If things are still slow, try replacing parts or all of your edit with let’s say an imported jpg and if it still takes hours to render this would suggest there is something wrong with Premiere.

You could then try disabling any plugins you have but if this doesn’t work, I can’t think of anything except re-installing Premiere.

Graham Macfarlane - CGI specialist
Elyarch Ltd - London UK

3D Studio Max | Vray | Pflow | PhoenixFD | After effects | Mocha


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ali hussain
Re: rendering lateness
on Nov 22, 2014 at 11:25:05 am

I tried to export it with adobe premiere it was worst actually , Do you know anything about
upgrading laptops ? that thing will be very helpful .


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Graham Macfarlane
Re: rendering lateness
on Nov 22, 2014 at 12:21:01 pm

I’m more of a desktop person when it comes to computer upgrades.
Laptops are trickier to upgrade (Dell are likely even worse, if their desktops are anything to go by!)
I would suggest upgrading as a last resort once you’ve eliminated other possible problems as described in my previous post.

Graham Macfarlane - CGI specialist
Elyarch Ltd - London UK

3D Studio Max | Vray | Pflow | PhoenixFD | After effects | Mocha


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ali hussain
Re: rendering lateness
on Nov 22, 2014 at 4:27:02 pm

Well then , Thank you any way for your time .

@Graham Macfarlane


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