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slimy lime
Pentium D 830 vs 820 and a couple others...
on Aug 5, 2005 at 3:46:22 am

i've read several threads on several boards and just have to ask for myself...

for premiere pro on a video dedicated machine with an ASUS P5LD2 Deluxe MOBO and appropriate hard drive, RAM, etc...

1. will i see a difference between a pentium d 820 (2.8GHz) and 830 (3.0GHz)? does that difference justify the $100 dollar cost difference or could that money be better used on other hardware?

2. is there a much better processor solution in the 250-400 dollar price range? (with whatever MOBO changes are necessary)

thanks for everyones time and feedback.


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tantuscomputers
Re: Pentium D 830 vs 820 and a couple others...
on Aug 5, 2005 at 2:34:20 pm

1) Definitely worth $100... think about that 100mhz performance increase as time saved over the span of years. $100 is really not that much, unless you have an extremely tight budget.

2) Athlon X2 is a generally faster chip. Issue is compatibility with some advanced editing hardware. If you are going software-only, I would suggest you consider an AthlonX2.


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Evan Newsome
Re: Pentium D 830 vs 820 and a couple others...
on Aug 7, 2005 at 10:36:08 pm

ASUS P5LD2 Deluxe does not have RAIDable P ATA port. so you will only be able to raid the SATA ports.

The Gigabyte MOBO 81945P Pro has RAIDable IDE ports ( it think their chip set is 8212F) plus this MOBO has 1394b not 'a', so you connect the latest firewire devices to this mobo.

If you are not under the gun when you're editing... the saving 100 bucks is saving 100 bucks. you can always activate auto overclocking and get alittle more CPU Mhz out of it. I get my 830 3.0Mhz auto overclocks to 3.15 (rock solid).


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tantuscomputers
Re: Pentium D 830 vs 820 and a couple others...
on Aug 8, 2005 at 1:38:07 am

LeeAVP: ASUS P5LD2 Deluxe does not have RAIDable P ATA port.



Bah! I consider that a plus. PATA is legacy technology now.

LeeAVP:

plus this MOBO has 1394b not 'a'


But then how are you going to connect your DV cam? I guess with the firewire card that you're going to have to buy too...


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Evan Newsome
Re: Pentium D 830 vs 820 and a couple others...
on Aug 8, 2005 at 2:45:41 am

It is my understanding that 1394b is also backwards compatible with 1394a devices. just like any usb 2.0 port works with any usb 1.1 device.

Do you know for a fact that a DV Cam won't work in 1394b ports?
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RE: P ATA yeah I know it is old tech. But he may just be upgrading his CPU, MOBO & RAM and wanted to keep his old drives & other hardware since he doesn't mention anything else.

For me I had 2 -200 gig P ATA drives I wanted to use in my computer. It is stupid to throw out my hard drives because P ATA is old tech. It still spins off my data fast enough to use. The only reason I would trash my old P ATA drives.. is if I am doing HD (which I am not). So I consider this a negative for this board. FYI: I was just giving him info on the MOBO and I am letting him run with it.


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tantuscomputers
Re: Pentium D 830 vs 820 and a couple others...
on Aug 8, 2005 at 2:44:34 pm

I guess it's true that the technology is backwards compatible - but the Firewire 800 9-pin ports that are always put on 800mbps controllers are different from Firewire 400 ports - so you're not going to be able to connect your camera or anything else that has the 6 pin interface.

PATA - Bah!


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slimy lime
Re: Pentium D 830 vs 820 and a couple others...
on Aug 8, 2005 at 10:20:27 pm

first off, thanks for the your time and feedback...much appreciated.

i am building a new machine from the ground up but would like to keep one of my hard drives from my current one. other than that, i'm planning on buying all new.

here is another question that i recently realized i need an answer to.

i'm retiring my old editing machine to the "internet/gaming old cpu's home" and i'm now in need of a mobo and graphics card upgrade (no pci express slots...agp only). anyway, that puts a samll crunch on my budget for the new machine and i was wondering what video card you would recommend for my video editing cpu. i know that pci express is the only real option (especially given my planned mobo) and that premiere pro isn't very demanding on the graphics card, so what card should i get to save a little $ to put towards upgrading my older one?

thanks so much again.


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tantuscomputers
Re: Pentium D 830 vs 820 and a couple others...
on Aug 9, 2005 at 4:05:55 am

ATI Radeon X300 comes in PCI Express, is cheap, and will run Premiere just fine.


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tantuscomputers
Re: Pentium D 830 vs 820 and a couple others...
on Aug 9, 2005 at 4:06:14 am

ATI Radeon X300 comes in PCI Express, is cheap, and will run Premiere just fine.


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slimy lime
Re: Pentium D 830 vs 820 and a couple others...
on Aug 9, 2005 at 11:31:29 pm

ok, here is what i've decided on (unless someone here smacks for anything)...

Pentium D 830
ASUS P5WD2 Premium MOBO
ASUS EN6600 256MB GeForce 6600 PCIexpress
CORSAIR 2GB DDR2 533 RAM (4 X 512)
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA II Hard Drive (video storage)
(already owned) Western Digital 80G 7200 RPM (apps)

plus the appropriate cases, power suppliy (500W), burners, etc...

ok, let me have it!!! ha.


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Evan Newsome
Re: Pentium D 830 vs 820 and a couple others...
on Aug 10, 2005 at 2:38:12 am

looks good.. but why DDR2 533 and not 667 or 800?


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slimy lime
Re: Pentium D 830 vs 820 and a couple others...
on Aug 10, 2005 at 3:21:53 am

LeeAVP: looks good.. but why DDR2 533 and not 667 or 800?


i've read somewhere that it's best to match the FSB of the MOBO with the appropriate RAM...800 to DDR2 400/ 1066 to 533...there wasn't really a good technical reason given but i thought that i'd go for it anyway. can you shed some light (either pro or con) on the subject?


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