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Taylor
64-bit processing and Longhorn
on Jun 21, 2005 at 4:17:28 pm

Hello,

I'm trying to put together an editing system. I know that dual core processors will be coming out soon and Longhorn which supports 64-bit processing. I know that if I had to buy now the best would be to get dual Xeon processors. So does anyone know when the dual core processors plan to be released? When is Longhorn being released?

So if I waited until they were released, would it be a good idea to run out and buy them for video editing? Should I wait until it's tested and proven (more mature)?

Also, are there any NLEs that support 64-bit processing?

Thanks,
Taylor


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Bldaz
Re: 64-bit processing and Longhorn
on Aug 2, 2005 at 5:24:40 am

Here where i am at, this is for a Pinnacle system Dell Precision 670 x64

From $5,376
Now from
$4,976
Discount Details

2Preliminary Ship Date
8/18/2005
Dell Precision 670 x64
Dell Precision Workstation 670:
Intel® Xeon™ Processor 3.20GHz, 2MB L2 Cache 6T3226 <221-8926> 1
2nd Processor (Must match speed selection above):
Intel® Xeon™ Processor 3.20GHz, 2MB L2 cache PR322 <311-4855> 2
Operating System:
Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional, x64 Edition with Media XPP6E <420-5258> 11
File System:
NTFS File System NTFS <420-3699> 13
Intel Hyper-Threading:
Hyper-Threading feature preset to ON. Can be disabled/enabled in BIOS. HYPER <460-7163> 41
Hardware Support Services:
3 Year On-site Economy Plan W3YOS <980-7000><980-7002> 29
Memory:
2GB, DDR2 SDRAM Memory, 400MHz, ECC (2 DIMMS) 2GE2 <310-4986> 3
Keyboard:
Entry Level, PS/2, No Hot Keys E <310-1609> 4
Mouse:
No Mouse Option NMS <310-1247> 12
Hard Drive Configuration:
C2- All SATA drives, RAID 0, 2 SATA drive total configuration SR02 <341-1114> 9
First Hard Drive:
250GB SATA, 7200 RPM Hard Drive with DataBurst Cacheâ„¢ for RAID 250RD <341-1146> 8
2nd Hard Drive:
250GB SATA, 7200 RPM Hard Drive with DataBurst Cacheâ„¢ 250SATA <341-1156> 23
CD-ROM, DVD, and Read-Write Devices:
48X/32XCD-RW AND 16XDVD+/-RW w/Sonic DM, CyberLink PowerDVD CDRM16 <313-3381> 16
Floppy Drive Options:
No Floppy Drive NFD <341-1436> 10
Graphic Cards:
128MB PCIe x16 nVidia Quadro FX 1400, Dual DVI or Dual VGA or DVI + VGA FX1400 <320-4175> 6
Monitors:
FREE UPGRADE FROM CRT! Dell 19 inch UltraSharpâ„¢ 1905FP Flat Panel 1905FP4 <464-1325> 5
2nd Monitor:
Dell 19 inch UltraSharpâ„¢ 1905FP Flat Panel, adjustable stand, VGA/DVI 1905FP <320-4109> 45
Sound Card:
Sound Blaster­ Audigy™ 2 (D), w/Dolby Digital 5.1 & IEEE1394 SBA2 <313-3513> 17
Speakers:
Dell A425 Speakers A425 <313-2128> 18
Modem:
Dellâ„¢ 56K v.92 Data/Fax PCI Modem V92DF <312-0256> 14
Productivity Software:
Microsoft Office 2003 Professional Editon w/MS Office 2003 Online Training MS64PK2 <412-0468> 22 Resource CD:
Resource CD - contains Diagnostics and Drivers RCD <313-3428> 21

From what the Videoguys v. 3 DIY it looks like this is close to it? Can someone that knows jump in here?


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tantuscomputers
Re: 64-bit processing and Longhorn
on Aug 3, 2005 at 9:42:09 pm

Beyond the fact that its a Dell Smile , here is what I see wrong with that:

1) Why Xeon? I've been pounding away at threat after thread explaining why Dual-Core has made the Xeon chip absolete (until there are dual-core Xeons).

2) The Storage is incomplete. You don't want just a single RAID 0 array for the workstation (search these forums for extensive conversation on this). You need to have a separate boot drive.

3) The video card may be overkill or completely inappropriate... You probably could do just as well with GeForce based card with Pinnacle. Quadro not necessary. If Quadro, consider the 1300 - It's considerably cheaper and you only lose barely noticable clock speed.


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Bldaz
Re: 64-bit processing and Longhorn
on Aug 3, 2005 at 11:30:41 pm

In reply to that, First i do not buy computers very often (i still have Win 98 Sad ) and i want to try and get some future proofing, So i go Xeon for the speed, i do not want to wait for rendering, a little is okay, I dont think Dual core will out do two separate chips, Dual core Dual Xeon set for this year 05 not 06, by end of year probably but i dont want to wait. I also already have the DV cam and want to get going with it. Second there is'nt a sata boot drive available from Dell in thier config at least not from the pick menu, you have to go all SCSI with a controller, IE more cost, ideally yes 1, 80gb 10K SATA boot and then 2, 250 SATA 7K vid storage should be plenty for me. The vid card that they show is the 1400, they do not show the 1300. So where are we or am I now? Build it myself? i do not have the background for it, so.......... Here is yours
Rendition Essentials Workstation tantuscomputers
Platform
Intel Pentium 4 Processor: Intel Pentium-D 840 Dual Core
motherboard: ASUS P5LD2
Dual-Channel DDR2: 2GB Dual-Channel DDR2-400 (4x512MB Sticks)
Processor Cooler: Zalman CNPS7700 - Copper
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition
Chassis: SuperMicro SC-733 Chassis w/ 450 Watt Power Supply
Add-Ons, Options
PCI Express Video Card: nVidia QuadroFX 1300 PCIe
Audio Card: Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
Networking: Integrated Gigabit LAN
Optical Drive: Pioneer DVR-A09 Dual-Layer DVD±RW
Storage System
Boot/System Drive: SerialATA Western Digital Raptor 10K RPM <36GB>
Storage Drives/Array: SerialATA Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 <160GB>
Export Drive/Additional Storage: Qty: 2 X SerialATA Western Digital 16MB Cache <250GB>
Peripherals
Keyboard/Mouse: Logitech Wired Keyboard/Optical Mouse Set
Monitors: LCD 19in. ViewSonic VP191b
Speakers: Creative Inspire T3000 2.1
Services
System-Specific Bootable System Restore DVD
Warranty: 3 Year Standard Warranty
Shipping: UPS Ground Shipping
$ 4,509
Order Total: 4,509


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tantuscomputers
Re: 64-bit processing and Longhorn
on Aug 4, 2005 at 2:53:19 pm

Dual-Core vs. Dual-Xeon - You may not BEAT the Xeon chips, but you aren't going to do any worse either. Dual-Core IS physical dual processors. And the Pentium-D and Xeon chips are built on the same technology. It's a better buy, all-around to go dual-core.

Also another recommendation on the configuration. We were kicknig around graphics cards for Pinnacle in another thread and decided the best value/performance would be ATI Radeon. Going with a mainstream card like that will give you same functionality, more performance, for cheaper.

Looking at the quote you generated from our website, exchange the Quadro 1300 for an ATI Radeon X800XT 256MB and subtract $200.


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