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empireind
Matrox RT2500 vs RTx10 vs RTx100
on Mar 16, 2005 at 1:14:41 am

I am finally breaking down and building myself a new NLE computer for under $1600. My only question is about capture cards. As you can see, i am trying to keep the pricing down, so is there any HUGE reason to get an RTx100 over the RT2500 capture card (if i dont care that rt2500 is for premiere 6.5 instead of 1.5 pro) what are the major differences between these 3 cards. thanks so much! this website has saved me!


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John Q
Re: Matrox RT2500 vs RTx10 vs RTx100
on Mar 16, 2005 at 4:08:41 am

The RT2500 gives you realtime preview during editing, but transitions are then rendered, usually in realtime, using the hardware, before export.

The X10 gives you an analog and firewire capture card with most effects executed in realtime without rendering.

The X100 adds more hardware to give you more realtime editing effects, like color correction, plus realtime transcoding for DVD authoring. You also have the hardware to support realtime preview of your video on a television monitor simultaneously with the Adobe preview window. It's really nice to be able to see how the video will actually look on a television, while editing.


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empireind
Re: Matrox RT2500 vs RTx10 vs RTx100
on Mar 16, 2005 at 4:29:55 am

thank you for your quick reply! so with the rt2500 i will still be able to preview the video on a television, correct? the main difference between the two is that the x100 has more realtime effects and has firewire and analog capture, while the 2500 doesnt?

this is my dilemma. i have adobe 6.5 and i got adobe pro 1.5 as a graduation present. so i think i would be able to get the x100 for around $600 instead of $1000. but i could go on ebay and get a rt2500 for around $250. i just dont know if the x100 is worth it.

thanks again for the reply


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John Q
Re: Matrox RT2500 vs RTx10 vs RTx100
on Mar 16, 2005 at 5:20:41 am

All three will capture both analog and firewire. The 2500 always has to render before export, albeit with hardware realtime support.

I upgraded from an RT2000 to the X100 specifically because I was moving into DVD authoring. With my 700 MHz PIII system and the RT2000, transcoding for DVD ran at 8:1, 8 hours for every hour of video. While current computers are faster, they are only truly realtime, if they have hardware doing the transcoding. With my X100, transcoding is realtime.

Eventually computers will speed up enough that any system will be able to do realtime, or faster, transcoding using just software. For now, it takes hardware. Be happy that it's only $600. I spent $1200 for mine, plus another $800 later for a video collection upgrade. Was it worth it? YES!!! It made DVD authoring practical enough to make money doing it.


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empireind
Re: Matrox RT2500 vs RTx10 vs RTx100
on Mar 16, 2005 at 9:46:46 pm

well i think i'm finally convinced to buy the x100. it would seem pretty stupid not to. thank you for your time and patience!


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John Q
Re: Matrox RT2500 vs RTx10 vs RTx100
on Mar 17, 2005 at 3:06:02 am

One word of advice. High performance cards like the X100 are very particular about the system they're plugged into. Buy hardware that's been tested and approved by Matrox, and configure it they way they did. It will save a lot of frustration.


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empireind
Re: Matrox RT2500 vs RTx10 vs RTx100
on Mar 17, 2005 at 5:15:38 am

this is what i am going to get from newegg tomorrow:
Motherboard: ASUS "P5AD2-E Deluxe" i925XE Chipset Motherboard

CPU: Intel LGA 775 Pentium 4 640 3.2GHz 800MHz FSB, 2MB L2 Cache Processor

Memory: (2GB RAM)Geil Ultra Platinum Series Dual Channel 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-4200

Storage: (system) 80GB Western Digital 8MB Cache 7200RPM
(data) 250 GB 8MB Cache 7200RPM

Video Card: ATI Radeon 9800Pro 128MB DDR 256-bit

DVD Burner: Lite-on 16x Dual Layer DVD+/-RW

Case: ??? but a 400W Power Supply

Everything matches up pretty well, i think...anyone have any opinion on the video card. this computer will be used strictly for video editing...NOTHING else. that is the only thing holding me up right now. i would like to spend less if possible. thanks



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John Q
Re: Matrox RT2500 vs RTx10 vs RTx100
on Mar 17, 2005 at 6:24:19 am

Looks good, although the 9800 is overkill, unless you're doing After Effects, which would take advantage of the 9800's OpenGL performance for project preview. The X100 provides the horsepower for Premiere, so the 9800's OpenGL features aren't used.


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empireind
Re: Matrox RT2500 vs RTx10 vs RTx100
on Mar 17, 2005 at 7:10:04 am

what video card would you recommend if i am not going to be using after effects? maybe a lower end matrox?


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John Q
Re: Matrox RT2500 vs RTx10 vs RTx100
on Mar 18, 2005 at 2:44:10 am

Any video card on the Matrox approved list will work. Of course, Matrox works hardest to assure compatibility with their video cards. Since I'm starting to use After Effects, I'm considering replacing my G550 with a newer board with better OpenGL performance. I'm just not far enough into my training to know which one to choose yet, or whether I even want to.

For Premiere and Encore, the G550 is fine.


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Luke
Re: Matrox RT2500 vs RTx10 vs RTx100
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on Apr 7, 2005 at 3:32:07 pm

I don't think you NEED specific hardware for realtime DVD MPEG encoding, I've made a few DVDS with Encore, like a half hour long, and they only take about 45 mins, including burning to DVD, when I let Encore encode for me.. This PC has no specific hardware and is just a 2ghz 512mb... Hey, I'd love people to critique my future NLE, I want to buy the bits ASAP! Thanks, hereitis: http://videoguys.forumexperts.com/viewtopic.php?p=110750#110750


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