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Guylain Doyle
Export embedded subtitles FCPX
on Dec 4, 2018 at 10:31:20 pm

Hi,

I've added english closed caption (ITT) on my spanish interviews in fcpx 10.4.3
I want to export a QT movie for a projection on screen. The problem is when I open the file,
the subtitles are not embedded.

I did activate (role) them in the index panel and checked the ITT box at the export stage.

I'm not familiar with closed-caption at all.

Anybody knows what I'm missing?


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Export embedded subtitles FCPX
on Dec 4, 2018 at 11:02:48 pm

You mean you want the captions burned in to the video (with no way to turn them off)?

This option is available in FCPX 10.4.4 but not 10.4.3.


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Andreas Kiel
Re: Export embedded subtitles FCPX
on Dec 5, 2018 at 6:25:44 pm

ITT is for iTunes only and is never embedded.
CEA will be embedded for supported languages.

Otherwise follow Jeremy's advice and upgrade to 10.4.4 and you can get a "poor man's" burn in.

Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
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Mark Suszko
Re: Export embedded subtitles FCPX
on Dec 5, 2018 at 8:45:49 pm

I -think- you can do a burn-in. regardless of FCPX version number, if you render it out using Compressor. Worth a shot?


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Andreas Kiel
Re: Export embedded subtitles FCPX
on Dec 5, 2018 at 11:33:42 pm

[Mark Suszko] "Worth a shot?"
Definitively not ;-)

Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil


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Eric Santiago
Re: Export embedded subtitles FCPX
on Feb 18, 2019 at 1:37:57 am

I used the latest FCPX to create my ITT files and would like to create an SRT file out of it somehow.
I read up on the YouTube option but is there another way?
And if I were to use Spherico X-Title, will that export the ITT to an SRT?


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Export embedded subtitles FCPX
on Feb 18, 2019 at 1:42:38 am

You can do srt in fcpx, just change the caption role to srt.


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Eric Santiago
Re: Export embedded subtitles FCPX
on Feb 18, 2019 at 1:56:46 am

[Jeremy Garchow] "You can do srt in fcpx, just change the caption role to srt."

Thanks just figured that. Is there a way to do a mass edit?
I tried selecting them all and dragging it to the SRT channel and FCPX crashes.


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Eric Santiago
Re: Export embedded subtitles FCPX
on Feb 18, 2019 at 1:58:36 am

I really should leap before I ask here 😉

Thanks, Jeremy for getting me started.


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Eric Santiago
Re: Export embedded subtitles FCPX
on Feb 22, 2019 at 3:59:09 pm

I switched the ITT to CEA and it seems to work.
At export, I chose to save as a file.
I don't recall but does the CC embed as well into the exported clip?
My last CC project was in Premiere.
Many moons ago :)


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Export embedded subtitles FCPX
on Feb 22, 2019 at 4:24:48 pm

CEA 608 allows embedded the caption in to the file (closed captions).

The other formats are separate files (ITT & SRT) and do not support embedding in to the file.

You can also burn-in (open captions) all formats as well by hitting the "captions" button in the Role tab of the share window.

Should look something like this:



Jeremy


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Eric Santiago
Re: Export embedded subtitles FCPX
on Feb 22, 2019 at 9:02:41 pm

[Jeremy Garchow] "CEA 608 allows embedded the caption in to the file (closed captions)."

Thanks again Jeremy!


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Alan Langdon
FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Aug 2, 2019 at 8:28:44 pm

FCPX 10.4.6

I have a one-hour timeline with Captions (a .SRT file I was given and imported).
The subtitles appear on the video in the Viewer (albeit with low resolution, I guess this is FCPX's real-time characteristic).
I have seen all the tutorials on how to export with burnt in subtitles (something the client wants), but when I follow these steps, the resulting QT ( a Multi-track QT, with 2 stereo tracks) does not have burnt in subs. I am testing with a small portion of the 1-hour project, could this be why? Do I need to export the whole piece (I would think not)?
Also, maybe it needs to be an iTT -type caption? Or SCC?



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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Aug 2, 2019 at 8:32:35 pm

[Alan Langdon] "I have seen all the tutorials on how to export with burnt in subtitles"

Have you checked the Captions option in Roles tab of the Share export window and selected the appropriate language in the "burned in captions" drop down?


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Andreas Kiel
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Aug 2, 2019 at 11:48:11 pm



For better quality open captions you may try my X-Title XTE
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools/TitleExchange/XTE/index.html

Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
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Alan Langdon
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Aug 2, 2019 at 11:56:17 pm

Yes, I have, that's what II learned from the tutorials and Apple documentation... I seem to be missing something else.



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Andreas Kiel
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Aug 3, 2019 at 12:01:38 am

Hmm,

Should work.

I mentioned my XTE. The app (or better the first version of it) was covered by a Ripple Training video






Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Aug 3, 2019 at 3:03:01 am

[Alan Langdon] "Yes, I have, that's what II learned from the tutorials and Apple documentation... I seem to be missing something else.
"


Is the caption Role check box turned on in the Index?


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Alan Langdon
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Aug 4, 2019 at 11:34:44 pm

Yes, it is. It's visible in FCPX, due to being checked.
And when I Send to Compressor, the captions appear in white over the image. I thought I might be able to burn in the captions there from Compressor (although it might br hard to make the 4-channel multi-channel QT the client needs), but I have not been able to do this (export rom Compressor with burned in captions) either.
My next attempt will be to try the Spherico solutions a user here sugested.



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Andreas Kiel
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Aug 5, 2019 at 2:02:25 pm

I never succeeded to burn-in captions in Compressor - nor did anybody I know.
The problem in your case might be the multi-channel QT, but I'm not sure.

In any case give the XTE a try. You already spent so much precious time, it won't matter.

Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil


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Alan Langdon
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Aug 6, 2019 at 2:20:54 am

Thanks for responding!

This is all something which in theory FCPX now can do: export with burned-in captions/subtitles, from what I have seen in YouTube tutorials, but I have not been able to do this, they never burn in.

I downloaded several of the solutions of Spherico, thanks to your suggestion. Some didn't seem to install properly, with several error messages (like XTCC, which is what I need: I have SRT captions in FCPX and want them to become burned-in Titles)... that app kept giving me debug warning messages and I couldn't use it.

Title Exchange Pro is one I have yet to understand how it works, it might be what I want and more (different conversions to and from SRTs, etc).

XTCE is one I have successfully used though (albeit with the limitation of 50 subtitles at a time), and am considering making the donation to enable full usage, but first I would like to understand if Title Exchange Pro is more complete and thus a better investment. I live in Brazil and 40 euros today is equivalent to 1/6 of minimum wage.

Can you shed any light on the difference between Title Exchange Pro and XTCE?

many thanks,
Alan



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Andreas Kiel
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Aug 6, 2019 at 11:51:44 am

XTCE, XTCC and TitleExchange are all marked as not Mojave compatible.
They are still left as backup solutions for customers who still use High Sierra and below.

XTCE, XTCC websites lead to XTE (and XTI) as actual versions.
Those run fine without "several error messages" 😉

TitleExchange is a format converter app which won't cover FCP special conversions. So it's not recommended for your case.
XTI let you import quite a bunch of formats into FCP either as Captions, Titles or as DH Subtitle Generator.

http://www.spherico.com/filmtools/TitleExchange/XTE/XTE.dmg
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools/TitleExchange/XTI/XTI.dmg

TextUp Motion Templates download:
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools/TitleExchange/Plugins/TextUp_2018.dmg
TextUp usage:
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools/TitleExchange/Plugins/TextUp_Usage.pdf

Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil


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Alan Langdon
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Aug 7, 2019 at 1:56:27 am

Thank you, Andreas, for your efforts to explain and help.
Are you still part of Spherico? Do you know if one donation gets full usage of both XTI and XTE?
And do you know if this donation amount is negotiable, since it is in theory a donation?



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Andreas Kiel
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Aug 7, 2019 at 1:13:44 pm

[Alan Langdon] "Do you know if one donation gets full usage of both XTI and XTE?"
Yes.
[Alan Langdon] "And do you know if this donation amount is negotiable"
No, not anymore.
You can still work within the limits and split/join the captions.
There are other apps for less money (or free services) which do allow to convert SRT to titles, all of them with less options but they may work for you.
You're "fighting" with these kind of problems since nearly 1 year - imagine the savings you would have had since then 😊

Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil


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Olga Busch
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Dec 1, 2019 at 11:43:52 am

Thank you very much for creating this great XTE tool! I tried the new XTE title x-title tool lite edition, but I cannot get it working. I followed the instructions in the video and downloaded XTCC/XTE Mojave. There is no floating window where to drag the project with the CC, so I exported XML from FCPX 10.4.6. When opening in FCPX I get an error message.

Do I need to make certain settings in FCPX before exporting the XML?

Thank you in advance!
Best, Olga

ERROR MESSAGE: The XML document could not be imported
DTD validation failed. (Element video content does not follow the DTD, expecting (param* , note? , (conform-rate? , timeMap?) , (adjust-crop? , adjust-corners? , adjust-conform? , adjust-transform? , adjust-blend? , adjust-stabilization? , adjust-rollingShutter? , adjust-360-transform? , adjust-reorient? , adjust-orientation?) , (audio | video | clip | title | caption | mc-clip | ref-clip | sync-clip | asset-clip | audition | spine)* , (marker | chapter-marker | rating | keyword | analysis-marker)* , (filter-video | fi...)


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Andreas Kiel
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Dec 2, 2019 at 10:02:40 am

[Olga Busch] "Thank you very much for creating this great XTE tool! I tried the new XTE title x-title tool lite edition, but I cannot get it working."

So I'll try to help.

[Olga Busch] "I followed the instructions in the video and downloaded XTCC/XTE Mojave. "

The video is a bit outdated.
You should download the actual one anyway *):
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools/TitleExchange/XTE/XTE.dmg

[Olga Busch] "There is no floating window where to drag the project with the CC, so I exported XML from FCPX 10.4.6. "

By default the main window is a floating once when the app is activated, it switches back to standard behaviour when a conversion is done.
Maybe you have turned off this behaviour in the preferences:


But regardless of these setting you always can turn on/off this by pressing 'ctrl-T'

[Olga Busch] "When opening in FCPX I get an error message.
Do I need to make certain settings in FCPX before exporting the XML?"

This can happen under certain conditions. Not every caption/title relation can be resolved in any case.
So the "Known Issues" part of the website says:
'In certain situations subtitles(captions) in FCPX have to be in a "subtitle only" project.'

*)
since 10.4 with every version there are some XML bugs more obvious, some are added and with 10.4.7 a new one is there. The latter one isn't only a XML one but could happen while working with certain titles.
Have a look here:
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools/TitleExchange/XT-FCP/index.html


Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil


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Olga Busch
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Dec 9, 2019 at 12:09:15 pm

Dear Andreas,
Thank you very much for taking time and effort to reply to my question. I did everything you write, but when the version in the link you suggest is installed, it gives an error message: 'X-title Extractor is damaged and can't be opened'

I tried the rest of your suggestions with the previous version (X-Title Mojave) but then it hangs. What I did was the following:

- Open XTE'' (X-Title Mojave)
- Open FCPX
- Make a compound clip of the edit
- Create captions only project: in Index, switch of Roles 'Titles, Video, Dialogue, Music'
- Drag project to floating window
- Get the spinning rainbow wheel in XTE'' (X-Title Mojave)

Exporting this 'captions only project' as XML and loading in XTE'' (X-Title Mojave) got the same spinning wheel.

Maby it doesn't work because of the setup?
- System MacOS 10.14.6
- FCPX 10.4.6 (cannot update, to stay compatible with old MacBook Pro)

Hope you can help?
Best regards,
Olga Busch


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Alan Langdon
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on May 18, 2020 at 9:09:49 pm

Andreas, thank you for such a good tool. I have installed the Lite version of XTE (the 6 mb version, I think it's the latest). I am running Mojave and FCPX 10.4.6.

When I made a test timeline with one Title, it converted fine to .SRT as well as FCPX XML with Captions... But that was a test with one Basic Title.

Now I am unable to use it in a real situation: I am trying to convert dozens of Basic Title clips within a Project (timeline) into either a .SRT or a FCPX Project with a Caption track.

XTE starts converting (I presume) and hangs with a window saying "Converting Titles: Process Role: r3" but the progress bar does not progress, XTE just hangs there...
I would presume it would convert only the first 25 titles, but it seems to be doing not even that, just hanging... Any idea?

Thank you!



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Andreas Kiel
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on May 21, 2020 at 8:21:53 am

Hello Alan,

Sorry to hear that it doesn't work for you.

It's difficult to say what happened.
You can send me the XML you are trying to convert and I'll have a look at it.

Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil


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Alan Langdon
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on May 21, 2020 at 10:18:47 am

Good morning Andreas-
Thanks so much for your attention and inclination to help solve this.
I think I found the solution: a while ago I think I contacted you and you directed me to the Mojave version of your software, X-Title for Mojave. That seems to be working now, although only 25 titles at a time due to the freeware limitation. I wish I could donate the full ammount you request (200 EU), but for me, living in Brazil in an era of pandemic and dictatorship, our currency has been devalued to the point that 200 EU is more than a whole month of minimum wages. Very much deserved on your end of the exchange, its just that I am not able to pay that amount.
Again, thank you very much for helping, starting with the development of such needed software, and also for being available for support.
Have a great rest of the week and be safe!
Obrigado,
Alan



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Andreas Kiel
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on May 21, 2020 at 10:21:56 am

Alan,

It's 40 EUR not 200 !

Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil


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Alan Langdon
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on May 22, 2020 at 10:38:55 am

Hello, Andreas-

Thanks for correcting that, I had that ammount form the website of Spherico but I think it might have been for a group of products, perhaps?
Just so I understand, what does the 40 euro donation include? Can me and my wife share the same license (we both work with video and have three macs for such)? Does that allow us to use the software with Catalina too once we upgrade, or is it just for the Mojave version?
Thanks again and hopefully we can make it happen here, we're considering it now that we understand its not 200 EU.

best regards and have a safe weekend,
Alan



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Andreas Kiel
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on May 22, 2020 at 10:55:44 am

[Alan Langdon] "Just so I understand, what does the 40 euro donation include?"
  • X-Title Import
  • X-Title Extractor
  • 3 Motion Titles
  • 2 Motion Effects

[Alan Langdon] " Can me and my wife share the same license (we both work with video and have three macs for such)?"
The license works the same way as with FCP. You can use it on any machine as long as you don't use it the same time.

[Alan Langdon] "Does that allow us to use the software with Catalina too once we upgrade, or is it just for the Mojave version?"
Mojave was a "break" in the sequence of Apple's OS versions - so these version wil work till the next "break" - whenever that will be :-)

Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Aug 5, 2019 at 2:38:11 pm

Part of me thinks that there is still a step being missed.

Skip compressor for now and just use fcpx and share a master file.

In the export dialogue, after clicking the blue "Captions" button in the Role tab, and then choosing burn in captions from the drop down, so you see the caption option added to the video track?

I am not taking about the separate caption section.

It should look something like this:





Jeremy


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Alan Langdon
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Aug 6, 2019 at 2:24:37 am

Hey, Jeremy!
Yes, this is what is making me crazy: I follow all the steps and see this, just like in your uploaded image. But the resulting file has no burned-in titles. Maybe its because it is a multi-track QT, as Andreas suggested. If this is the case, I should be able to export Picture only (regular QT with burned captions) and reimport it and then re-export out a multi-track with that... I will try this.
Thanks!



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Alan Langdon
Re: FCPX not burning in subtitles
on Aug 6, 2019 at 2:31:13 am

Nope... I just tried Sharing as a Master Quicktime, regular QT and not Multitrack, but to no avail: still no burned in captions. Attached is an image showing I have set everything properly (I think).




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