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Sascha Engel
Salad of frame rates
on Mar 5, 2017 at 4:56:50 pm

Hi,

I got a real mess in terms of fps per second and shutter speed!

The material is of a SONY A7s:

- Shutter speed is set to 1/50
- Shooting format 100 MB/se in 60fps, 59.94fps to be exact (basic shooting mode set to 24 fps).

I guess, by the error, that it was set to 1/50 instead of 1/60 shutter speed, I cannot use the 60p material properly in the 24p timeline (Slow down to 40%).
I wanna use it that way, since it's dance material and should be in Slow Motion.
Right now there goes a lot of stuttering on.

Usually, I work in PAL and when slowing down 50p material 50% it plays perfect in a 25p TL.

How can I treat this material now the best way?
On a 29,97 or 59.94 TL it plays smooth (when there's no Slowing down).

What should be the TL set to I work on?


Best,


Sascha

Sascha Engel
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Noah Kadner
Re: Salad of frame rates
on Mar 5, 2017 at 6:39:07 pm

What do you need to deliver? Generally I match the shooting frame rate of the most important angle and the rest get conformed. Shutter speed is kind of irrelevant though.

Noah

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Sascha Engel
Re: Salad of frame rates
on Mar 5, 2017 at 6:53:56 pm

Hi Noah,

Basically the idea was 24p, and shooting 60p, but due to a constand communication problem of the Angieux Lens with theMetabones,
it went from 1/120 or 1/60 shutter speed to 1/50 (PAL). So, when interpret the 60p footage, even on a 29.97 TL, I get smearing and jittering.

Best,

Sascha

Sascha Engel
KINO KITCHEN Studio
http://www.kinokitchen.co.il
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Noah Kadner
Re: Salad of frame rates
on Mar 5, 2017 at 7:17:08 pm

Well if it doesn't play smoothly on any timeline I guess it's a reshoot.

Noah

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Sascha Engel
Re: Salad of frame rates
on Mar 5, 2017 at 8:32:49 pm

It does playback smooth in a 59.94 and 29.97 TL, but not when I try to use it as slow motion.
So I could edit it in 59.94p, give up on SloMo and then export to 59.94p.
I wonder, if I can get it then still to 24p or at least 25p with smooth playback.
60p has - for my taste - a not nice feel to it, specially for dance.

Best,


Sascha.


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Noah Kadner
Re: Salad of frame rates
on Mar 5, 2017 at 9:30:50 pm

Sorry as I can't see your footage from here but seems like a 60p edit then export as 60p reingest completed edit in a 24p timeline and conform. And remember for next time:



Noah

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Sascha Engel
Re: Salad of frame rates
on Mar 6, 2017 at 5:53:39 am

Thanx. That's the route I planed to take.
And not much to remember here: I am totally aware of that settings not going together,
But shooting with an Angieux vintage lenses and a Metabones on an A7s is a bad call:
The MB and the lens don't communicate well and totally messing with aperature and shutter speed.

Best,


Sascha.

Sascha Engel
KINO KITCHEN Studio
http://www.kinokitchen.co.il
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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