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Giampaolo Moretti
FCPX Exported image sequence are not good
on Dec 29, 2015 at 4:49:51 pm

I have exported an image sequence of 35 frames from a 4k timeline (4096x2160 50p xavc-i) and all the images have a different black from the originals.
It seems that the black level is gain up after the export process.
I've tried with ProRes instead xavc-i but it's the same.
Any suggestion please?
Thanks.

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gary adcock
Re: FCPX Exported image sequence are not good
on Dec 29, 2015 at 6:26:34 pm

[Giampaolo Moretti] "I have exported an image sequence of 35 frames from a 4k timeline (4096x2160 50p xavc-i) and all the images have a different black from the originals."

Correct depending on what format you the frames were outputted to.

Warnings:
you are starting with an 8bit acquisition format
video images have a different gamma than print.

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Giampaolo Moretti
Re: FCPX Exported image sequence are not good
on Dec 30, 2015 at 10:13:53 am

Thanks a lot Gary.

I've esported the frames in various format: TIFF, PNG, PSD, etc. but it's the same.
I mustn't print the images.
I must to correct some imperfections frame by frame with Photoshop and then reimport.
If I reimport the frames and put over the original clip it's all ok but the black level is over!

I have done that many times with FCP7 and different HD formats (XDCAM, ProRes) and it was perfect.

Now with FCPX and 4k I can't make the same workflow.
I need to search an explanation before changing.

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX Exported image sequence are not good
on Dec 30, 2015 at 2:49:39 pm

Are you saying the rendered images from Photoshop look different in X, or is it that the frames look different in Photoshop after exporting from fcpx?

If it's the Photoshop processed frames, there are color space override settings available to modify in fcpx which might help. This is accessible by editing the metadata using the drop down menu in the inspector. Change the metadata view to "Extended" on the info tab of the inspector.

Most likely, your exported images from photoshop have a 1.8 gamma instead of 2.2.


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Giampaolo Moretti
Re: FCPX Exported image sequence are not good
on Jan 4, 2016 at 11:32:59 am

thanks Jeremy for the answer,

I'm saying about the simple exported image (TIFF, PSD, or others) before Photoshop processing.

If I reimport in fcpx this simple image the levels are different from the original clip

Original Clip


TIFF exported


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gary adcock
Re: FCPX Exported image sequence are not good
on Jan 4, 2016 at 4:14:48 pm

[Giampaolo Moretti] "If I reimport in fcpx this simple image the levels are different from the original clip"

What are your output parameters?

Are you outputting as in Full Range or SMPTE? (0-100 or 16-235)

The images indicate you are clipping the blacks, which often happens when you bounce between the Full range and SMPTE incodes.

Full Range file clip hard, The SMPTE Range spec allows the highlights and shadows to be "protected" to allow for greater range to be recorded by "rolling" off the extremes so the fit better within the acceptable.

A Full Range encoded file hard clips at 0 and 100 IRE while the SMPTE encoded file can handle "super white and super black" (below 0 and above 100 IRE)

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX Exported image sequence are not good
on Jan 4, 2016 at 10:03:02 pm

Why not export a ProRes movie and do the photoshop work on the movie, and reexport?

That should hold on to everything Gary is talking about. You might get the same results, though, after import from a Photoshop render because of what Gary is talking about.


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Giampaolo Moretti
Re: FCPX Exported image sequence are not good
on Jan 5, 2016 at 4:01:09 pm

Thanks Jeremy, this is an option that I tried but Photoshop don't give to me the right format to export:
No ProRes but only :
- animation
- JPEG 2000
- not compressed
and all the options getting the wrong images

Photoshop options (sorry for italian language)


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX Exported image sequence are not good
on Jan 5, 2016 at 5:28:57 pm

I'd try Uncompressed and turn off "color manage" or "gestisci colore".


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