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Mark Dobson
Working with Canon XC10 XF-AVC in FCPX
on Jun 28, 2015 at 7:44:58 am

Having just bought the XC10 camera I'm now confused as to how to import / work with the Canon XF-AVC files in FCPX. I've downloaded the Canon XFUtility of XF-AVC but this does not seem to enable me to import or transcode the files for use in FCPX .

Do I need to transcode the files using third party software?


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Jeff Kirkland
Re: Working with Canon XC10 XF-AVC in FCPX
on Jun 28, 2015 at 10:14:22 am

Two minutes with Google gave me this link to Apple's support page on importing XFAVC. Hopefully it helps.

https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT202252

Jeff Kirkland | Video Producer | Southern Creative Media | Melbourne Australia
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Mark Dobson
Re: Working with Canon XC10 XF-AVC in FCPX
on Jun 28, 2015 at 6:32:18 pm

Thanks Jeff,

No unfortunately the Canon XF-AVC is a new codex. Either Canon or Apple need to release an update for it to work natively it would seem despite publicity saying it does work.

Or I could just be having a stupid day and need to read the manuals a third time. RTFM?


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Jeff Kirkland
Re: Working with Canon XC10 XF-AVC in FCPX
on Jun 28, 2015 at 8:20:11 pm

Obviously, I need new glasses. A long day, and a late night, and I seem to have lost the ability to read. There are just way too many codecs with AVC in them,,,,

So, according to Canon, you use the XF utility version 2.0 to convert the footage from an XC10. I take it this isn't doing what it's supposed to?

Jeff Kirkland | Video Producer | Southern Creative Media | Melbourne Australia
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Mark Dobson
Re: Working with Canon XC10 XF-AVC in FCPX
on Jun 30, 2015 at 6:34:27 am

Just to be clear for anyone buying the XC10.

http://www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/digital_cinema/di...

XF-AVC is not supported in FCPX yet.


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Ed Caraballo
Re: Working with Canon XC10 XF-AVC in FCPX
on Jul 4, 2015 at 2:53:13 am

OUCH! I just bought my XC-10 today and ran into the same thing. Wish I saw this post yesterday. I got Green horizontal static lines where clips should be in FCPX's browser, even after installing Apple's "Pro Video Formats"

Thanks for posting this Mark. Hopefully FCPX will adapt this codec quickly so we won't need to convert everything. I like the camera other then the fact I have an extra big step now to convert it.


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Jeff Kirkland
Re: Working with Canon XC10 XF-AVC in FCPX
on Jul 4, 2015 at 3:11:51 am

I'm on the verge of picking up a couple of XC10s for a project so I'm curious... I thought the XF utility let you import and transcode the footage to ProRes? Is this not the case?

Jeff Kirkland | Video Producer | Southern Creative Media | Melbourne Australia
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Ed Caraballo
Re: Working with Canon XC10 XF-AVC in FCPX
on Jul 5, 2015 at 4:04:49 pm

By the way, fellow XC-10 owners...I tried a few converters that didn't work....Compressor of course didn't work, Wondersoft Video Converter Ultimate my usual goto converter didn't work...it converted audio but not video.

the one that worked for me is Brorsoft MXF converter. It's $29 USD.

http://www.brorsoft.com/mxf-converter-mac/purchase.html

Still very happy with this super lightweight little camera...great super sharp pictures and fleshtones...auto focus is good, and I'll be using it a lot. Love the adjustable grip.


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Mark Dobson
Re: Working with Canon XC10 XF-AVC in FCPX
on Jul 7, 2015 at 6:06:12 pm

Until apple incorporate Canon XF-AVC to allow native import I am using Episode Pro's XDCAM
HD422 Mov 1080p setting as a base and then changing that in the Episode inspector to a ProRes 422.

So my workflow is to use the Canon XFUtility for XF-AVC to import (backup) the files to a folder on a hard drive which you select in the apps preferences and then draught MXF files into Episodes File list and let i all cook for a while. Pretty painless if longwinded method.

As to the camera? Still making my mind up to be honest. I love the form factor and have been using it to get quick cutaways on a recent shoot with a Canon C300 as the main camera. It can take some great video when you get it right but is quite hard to get consistent results.

I'll post a link when I've got the time.


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Jesson Gasol
Re: Working with Canon XC10 XF-AVC in FCPX
on Sep 11, 2015 at 7:11:19 am

Thanks for all! I've tried the converter recommended by Ed, it did convert the XC10 XF-AVC footage to mov (ProRes) which seamlessly fit my FCP X. Anyone else could give a try!


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Daniele Massa
Re: Working with Canon XC10 XF-AVC in FCPX
on Aug 14, 2015 at 9:53:43 am

Dear all it is almost a week that i'm playing with this new (ugly) toy and as far as i'm concerned the codec works perfectly with resolve studio 12 and with premiere. Quite robust for grading even if the little toy has some limitations. So if you have trouble can download resolve 12 (lite)

http://www.danielemassa.com


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Joe Marler
Re: Working with Canon XC10 XF-AVC in FCPX
on Dec 2, 2015 at 10:13:57 pm

[Jeff Kirkland] "I'm on the verge of picking up a couple of XC10s for a project so I'm curious."

I would suggest you also evaluate the Sony RX10 II. One of our camera operators got one for personal use and it looks pretty good. It also shoots internal 4k, has the same 1" sensor size and a constant-aperture f/2.8 lens. I think FCP X supports its codec right now.


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Chris Torella
Re: Working with Canon XC10 XF-AVC in FCPX
on Dec 2, 2015 at 9:27:08 pm

still not working - with 10 and 12 bit XF AVC i had to buy one of those trans code programs

very frustrating

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juliet zhu
Re: Working with Canon XC10 XF-AVC in FCPX
on Aug 11, 2015 at 1:37:18 am
Last Edited By juliet zhu on Aug 11, 2015 at 1:38:58 am

As we know, Canon can record 4K and 1080p high definition video using MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 compression and the footage is wrapped in an MXF container. However, MXF format can't be natively supported by many professional video editing applications including FCP 6, FCP 7 and even the Final Cut Pro X. In addition, it also would be a bit hard to handle 4K video with Final Cut Pro 6/7. That's reason why so many users are facing troubles when handling Canon MXF files into Final Cut Pro. Well, things can be different if you get some help from third-party software.


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Alastair Jamieson
Re: Working with Canon XC10 XF-AVC in FCPX
on Apr 17, 2016 at 1:51:16 am

Apple have just released an FCPX update (v.10.2.3) that appears to address this issue by allowing use of Canon Plug-in 3.1 for Final Cut Pro X to enable direct import into FCPX.
Details: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205764


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