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David Battistella
Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 15, 2015 at 9:33:17 pm

This one should be easy. I have rendered resolve clips with 12 frame handles and now want to insert that media onto an existing timeline. There is a bug in resolve XML that conforms an R3D clip to it's original size rather than the rendered size of the timeline forcing a sequence to want to render.

So basically I want to select all my clips in the browser, mark an in 12 frames into the clip and an out 12 frames before the end of the clip. This way I can drag it over the existing sequence, line it up and overwrite and not have to render the whole thing again.

Is there a way to select all of the clips and mark an in 12 frames into each clip?

I might save me having to do 300+ clips manually trimming each one.

Thanks,

David

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Oliver Peters
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 15, 2015 at 10:25:47 pm

I've just gone through a big wrestling match with Resolve and FCP X. You might want to look over this workflow I wrote up:

https://digitalfilms.wordpress.com/2015/06/13/the-fcp-x-red-resolve-dance-i...

It doesn't answer the trim question, but it may be a solution for you.

- Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com


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Oliver Peters
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 15, 2015 at 10:56:34 pm

To answer the question directly, here's how to do the trims in FCP X. Assuming the clips can be sorted in the correct sequential order, then select all and edit them to a timeline. Then in the timeline, follow these steps:

1. Select all, select duration and enter -12. This trims the out point 12 frames.
2. Select all, pick retime and reverse clip. Now all clips are in the -100% mode.
3. Select all, select duration and enter -12. This trims the in point 12 frames.
4. Select all and reverse clips again. This puts the clips back in the right direction.

- Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com


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Bret Williams
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 16, 2015 at 12:32:00 am

Now that is an awesome trick.


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Oliver Peters
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 16, 2015 at 1:02:10 am

[Bret Williams] "Now that is an awesome trick."

I seem to recall Sam Mestman or Steve Martin showed that somewhere online.

- Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 16, 2015 at 12:00:24 am

Can't you select all and change the spatial conform to 'fit'?


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Oliver Peters
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 16, 2015 at 12:07:13 am

[Jeremy Garchow] "Can't you select all and change the spatial conform to 'fit'?"

You're still rendering on output. The FCPXML is based on 4K source resolution. So if you exported from Resolve at 1080 timeline resolution, the FCPXML is telling FCP X that the clips are 4K, even though they are 1080. Whether or not this render is actually noticeable is unknown (at least by me).

- Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 16, 2015 at 12:30:57 am

I bet that may be a really easy fix in the XML.

:)

David, if you send over your XML, I'll take a look.

Another thing to do would be to shift-f then shift-r on every clip in the timeline to match frame and then replace from start.


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Oliver Peters
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 16, 2015 at 1:03:34 am

[Jeremy Garchow] "I bet that may be a really easy fix in the XML. "

Washing it through Resolve a second time fixes it as well, as long as you are on the same machine (per our previous adventure).

- Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com


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David Battistella
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 16, 2015 at 6:38:17 am

Thank you!

I think I can figure it out now after these excellent suggestions.

I attacked it a few ways yesterday.

It might make sense to try to import the XML into resolve, relink it to the Rendered clips. In FCP X the resolve XML carries the R3D clip names in the timeline. Thus, i believe FCP X thinks it is dealing with 5K Clips instead of the rendered media, even though when you link the media in the finder it recognizes the rendered clip as the source. On short timelines, this is no biggie but on longer ones avoiding the render is preferred from a disk space and time perspective.

Still, something this basic should work pretty easily. Maybe it has something to do with XML 1.4.

Shane, I could try to send you the XML, and I will if I don't work this out quickly. I've posted/reported this in the Blackmagic DaVinci support forum community but have not heard anything back in that thread.

If I view the XML using mayflies from spherico the timeline carries the R3D name but it is linking to the rendered media correctly, so I think it has something to do with how FCP X is reading the original source clip and resolution.

Then again, if I create a new sequence and drop a rendered clip into it, no problem, if I copy paste from the old sequence, NOGO. parameters are all exactly the same except in the FCP inspector where the the source is 5K RED material and I suspect that information is being passed along through the FCP X chain.

If I edited the XML to make the source names match, I suspect that there would be no issue, because a change in PROJECT/timeline resolution has no effect.

David

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 16, 2015 at 12:43:02 pm

It has nothing to do with the names. All of that is controlled in the XML. You can have a up name with r3d and have it point to a .mov as the source. Since everything is pointing to the correct media, you're OK.

What you would have to change is the reference size to each asset. If you notice in the XML, there's a bunch of formats and a bunch of assets. Each of the assets gets referenced to a format ID number. If you either change all the format sizes to 1080 or change the reference is to an ID that contains 1080, save the XML and reimport, you should be fine.

Resolve seems to be writing some very weird XMLs, as Oliver and I found out last week.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 16, 2015 at 12:48:31 pm

By the way, another reason Resolve writes in the original file name is to help with relinking back to the R3Ds in other applications, should you ever need it.

Resolve has ways to relink with or without file extensions, but for purposes of compatibility, I'd leave the file name alone as the XML is actually correct in this case.


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David Battistella
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 16, 2015 at 3:09:59 pm

So just edit the XML as a text file?

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Oliver Peters
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 16, 2015 at 3:17:51 pm

[David Battistella] "So just edit the XML as a text file?"

I will warn you that this will be time-consuming for 300 clips. Rerunning the rendered clips and FCPXML through Resolve a second time is essentially instant.

- Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 16, 2015 at 3:48:47 pm

[Oliver Peters] "I will warn you that this will be time-consuming for 300 clips."

It might not be. Depending on the reference formats, you can easily find all instances and replace all instances in the format area. Keep all the ID numbers the same, and simply reimport he now properly formatted XML.

You aren't changing the clips, you are just changing a reference format for the clip.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 16, 2015 at 3:44:49 pm

[David Battistella] "So just edit the XML as a text file?
"


I use Text Wrangler, yes. You can even find/replace.

Just dupe the original XML, and edit the dupe, and reimport. If you need help, you can hit me up.

editstation at gmail

Jeremy


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Eric Santiago
Re: Marking IN and OUT points on multiple clips...
on Jun 17, 2015 at 1:02:46 pm

I have fun with Oxygen as far as XML goes.

Question, what about importing the XML from FCPX, creating a new Timeline in Resolve, then copy/paste from XML to Timeline.

Would this fix any oddities with the Resolve XML?

Im throwing darts here blindfolded since Ive been in XML hell with FCPX/Premiere/Xto7/Resolve the last few weeks for a full feature :P

My above workflow works great for fixing my audio sync issues during rough cut delivery.


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