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Phil Hyson
Camera Archive vs Folder Based
on Mar 21, 2015 at 7:22:38 pm

Want to copy Hi 8 and Mini DV tapes to hard drive. Have put some footage into Camera Archive and it seems a simple solution, but Camera Archive cannot be read by other applications. And I haven't found a way to move it out of camera archive.

Any recommendations how to recover this source data if Apple comes out with something like Final Cut Y and it won't work with those archives created with Final Cut X? Or if I want to switch to Premiere Pro?

And do some of you just use a folder based system created manually, for this reason?

Thanks, Phil


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John Rofrano
Re: Camera Archive vs Folder Based
on Mar 22, 2015 at 12:44:42 pm

[Phil Hyson] "Camera Archive cannot be read by other applications. And I haven't found a way to move it out of camera archive. ...Any recommendations how to recover this source data if Apple comes out with something like Final Cut Y and it won't work with those archives created with Final Cut X? Or if I want to switch to Premiere Pro?"
The Camera Archive is just a folder. No worries. It's a special folder known as a "package". You can right-click (or Ctrl+Click) on it and select Show Package Contents and be inside the folder where you can navigate through any other folders. When I save my AVCHD camera cards as a Camera Archive, and I Show Package Contents, I see my original AVCHD folder just as it was on the camera card. You can drag this out to any other place on your hard drive and any other NLE will recognize it as the original camera card that it is. I'm not sure how miniDV is stored in a Camera Archive but I have a lot of miniDV footage I need to capture so I'm about to find out. Rest assured that your original footage is inside the archive package and accessible if you need it outside of FCP X.

~jr

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Phil Hyson
Re: Camera Archive vs Folder Based
on Mar 22, 2015 at 9:15:28 pm

John, thanks for the reply and info.

The reason I asked is that Larry Jordan, who writes books and offers online classes on FCP X, said (albeit in 2012) that the disadvantage of using Camera Archive is that the only application that can read this file is FCP X. Further, he is leery of storing media in a format that can be read by only one application - even from large companies like Apple. His recommendation is to copy files manually so other applications are able to read them.

Maybe that was then the current version of FCP X has changed? Just want to make sure I'm putting all my footage into something that can be accessed by other software.


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John Rofrano
Re: Camera Archive vs Folder Based
on Mar 23, 2015 at 11:39:20 am

[Phil Hyson] "The reason I asked is that Larry Jordan, who writes books and offers online classes on FCP X, said (albeit in 2012) that the disadvantage of using Camera Archive is that the only application that can read this file is FCP X. "
I have a lot of respect for Larry but maybe at the time he didn't realize that it's just a folder and the contents (at least in the case of tapeless media) is an exact copy of your camera card. I haven't captured DV or HDV yet and I plan to test this out this week now that you've peaked my interest but with camera cards, the Camera Archive holds everything that was on he card originally so I wouldn't worry about it. It's just a folder with the extension ".fcarch" and some metadata about the clips. It is NOT a different format. The original format of the video inside is preserved. As I said, right-click and select "Show Package Contents" and see for yourself.

~jr

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Phil Hyson
Re: Camera Archive vs Folder Based
on Mar 23, 2015 at 7:55:48 pm

OK. I copied a full Mini DV tape shot on my Canon HV20, which is rated at 1080i ("HDV"?) I using Camera Archive. I then accessed the clips via Show Package Contents, which are listed as .mov. When I right click for "get info" it tells me they are Quicktime. The original recordings are m2t. Maybe there's a way to drill down into one of the .mov files.


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John Rofrano
Re: Camera Archive vs Folder Based
on Mar 25, 2015 at 12:01:01 am

[Phil Hyson] "The original recordings are m2t. Maybe there's a way to drill down into one of the .mov files."
No, the original records are magnetic tape! Windows PC's will copy the contents of the tape into an M2T container. Mac's will copy the contents of the tape into a QuickTime container. The video and audio from the tape are the same in both cases because it is a digital bit-for-bit transfer of what's on the tape to what's in the file. If you plan to edit them on a Mac, you want them in QuickTime format.

~jr

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