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Georg Schmitt
loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 27, 2014 at 1:58:38 pm

Hello,
I am working on my first serious project in FCPX an keep loosing the content of connected clips and secondary storylines!
Empty secondary storylines with fades remain.
VERY frustrating and embarrassing to explain to client!!!

I back up the storyline every day, but it is a pain to recover!

I'm on OS 10.10, FCPX 1.4.

Any help greatly appreciated !!

Thanks ahead

Georg



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John Rofrano
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 27, 2014 at 2:54:26 pm

When you import your media do you COPY it to the Library? This is the best way to ensure that nothing is ever missing or off-line.

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 27, 2014 at 3:22:48 pm

If it's just connected clips disappearing. I would assume this is unintended user error.

Use the tilde key (~). That keeps all connected clips in place when trimming, slipping/sliding, replacing clips in the primary.

If you have a connected clip and want it to remain in place while the primary clip is edited, hit the tilde first, then perform the edit.


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Georg Schmitt
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 27, 2014 at 4:12:53 pm

probably it is my error, I just don't know what i do wrong!
I have no problems moving them around, but the keep strangely vanishing!



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Jeremy Garchow
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 27, 2014 at 5:56:41 pm

When exactly do they vanish?


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Georg Schmitt
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 27, 2014 at 4:10:29 pm

Yes I do.



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Georg Schmitt
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 28, 2014 at 12:13:23 am

I wish I knew, but I think they get selected (outside of my visible screen)
through a keyboard command that I use!



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Jeremy Garchow
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 28, 2014 at 12:34:57 am

I'd start with using the tilde key before adding anything to the primary storyline until you figure out the cause.

I highly doubt any clips are simply disappearing without some sort of user interaction.


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Georg Schmitt
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 28, 2014 at 1:50:33 am

Thanks anyway , I will use the tilda from now on.



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James Ewart
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 28, 2014 at 11:27:36 am

Could you post a screenshot? Are the files disappearing completely or are they appearing to be going offline/unlinked?

It does seem odd.


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Georg Schmitt
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 28, 2014 at 4:13:53 pm

stangely the fades stay.





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Jeremy Garchow
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 28, 2014 at 5:08:06 pm

What did you do right before that? Can you recreate this problem?


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Georg Schmitt
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 28, 2014 at 6:10:20 pm

I don't really know, I discover it when I start new.



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Dave Jenkins
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 28, 2014 at 6:17:53 pm

One thing I do is deselect everything before I make changes. Command Shift A
Even in legacy FCP I would mistakenly have items selected and they would get deleted.

Dajen Productions, Santa Barbara, CA
Mac Pro 3.5MHz 6-Core Late 2013
FCP X


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James Ewart
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 29, 2014 at 3:07:03 am

Completely unhelpful for you but curious about the little yellow markers bottom corner of clips?

Never seen them this end.


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Georg Schmitt
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 29, 2014 at 11:37:21 am

Oh these are not markers but connections of audio, that is outside the screenshot.



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James Ewart
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 29, 2014 at 5:36:41 pm

It's such a odd problem. At first I thought your lips might just be disabled but clearly not. Or gone offline through not allowing the import render to complete but again not the case. I don't think I've seen this anywhere before.

You've trashed the preferences and all that presumably?

Maybe a clean install of the software?

Regards

James


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Georg Schmitt
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 29, 2014 at 5:44:29 pm

My life might wish my lips would be disabled sometimes;-)))

Thanks for reminding me to trash the prefs!
Haven't done it in a while - as I was thinking it is a user error.
I will do so.


For now I make compound clips wherever I have a secondary storyline!

Thanks everybody!



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Charlie Austin
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Dec 29, 2014 at 5:08:29 pm

Make sure you are selecting the secondary clip "container" (not the clip in the secondary) when you move them. If only the clip is selected, the container will stay put and the clip will move (or sometimes disappear, which I think is a bug especially with audio only secondaries...)

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Jeff Bemiss
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Jun 26, 2015 at 2:34:58 am

I've had this problem too. In my case, it's not that media is offline, because I get no flags and the clip I know should be there is still safely in my library.

The two things that make me suspect a bug are 1) as the original poster said, transitions remain inside these secondary storylines, which remain connected where they should be, but the clips are gone, and 2) I've had this happen to ALL of my secondary storylines at once, both the above video and the below audio.

I've never had it happen more than once per job, and I have noticed that when it does happen, it's when I am launching FCPX for a new work session. I saw a poster on the Apple discussion forum complaining of the same problem who said it happened when he was duplicating projects and importing XMLs.


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Jerome Raim
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Jun 29, 2015 at 6:00:29 pm

A few editors I know have had this happen to them as well. Because it occurs out of the blue without the user being aware of it, it's pretty much impossible to troubleshoot why/how/when it's happening.

Maybe it's because I have the Command+Shift+A reflex, but it's yet to happen to me. It's either a bug, or the user is somehow managing to select clips contained within secondary storylines... weird!

Sorry my response isn't useful, but it's good to know others are having the same issue.

Jerome Raim
Post-Production
JeromeRaim.com


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Jerome Raim
Re: loosing content of connected clips and secondary storylines
on Sep 4, 2015 at 6:37:52 pm

A coworker might have made some headway into troubleshooting a (the?) root of the problem. Here's a quick screen capture I made reproducing it:

FCPX-Losing content is secondary storylines



Shift+clicking secondary content may be actually selecting secondary storylines without you noticing it. Seems it happens only if there's an overlap, but I haven't consistently made sense of it.

So if this is the "only" cause of this issue, the rule of thumb is to always hold shift after dragging clips.

Jerome Raim
Post-Production
JeromeRaim.com


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