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Sascha Engel
XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 28, 2014 at 2:39:33 pm

Hi,

in Short my problem: Running FCPX 10.0.8 (cause I have a HacMac) and DaVinci 10.
Finished grading in Resolve, tried exporting both "Export for FCP" and "FCP Roundtrip".
The I tried to import the XML to FCPX.
But each time I get following error message:
"The operation could not be completed. Invalid argument."
Any idea what that means and how I can get the round trip working to FCPX?

Thanx a lot.

Greetings,

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Robin S. Kurz
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 28, 2014 at 3:20:00 pm

You'll want a newer version of FCP (i.e. FCPXML), which is in fact free.


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Sascha Engel
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 28, 2014 at 5:55:42 pm

Why? Cause 10.0.8. had a bug? So in 10.0.9. it would not give that error message anymore?
That would mean that 10.0.8. was entirely incompatible with DaVincis FCPX Roundtrip Function?
Right now I cannot upgrade to 10.1.0 since my system ain't Mavericks yet.

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Bret Williams
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 28, 2014 at 7:18:49 pm

You might need an older version of Resolve. If the version you have is outputting the latest FCPXML that your old version of X hasn't heard of, it could be a problem. But just a guess.


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Sascha Engel
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 28, 2014 at 7:20:38 pm

Any chance to convert my DaVinci 10 XML to a XML that my FCPX can understnd? (way to many Xs in that sentence ;-)

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Anna Possberg
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2014 at 8:51:16 am

I had the same problem with DaVinci 10 XML roundtrip to FCPX. I talked with the Black Magic support and they said clearly the actual DaVinci XML works only with FCPX 10.0.9 at least (the XMLs are otherwise not compatible). So you either upgrade FCPX (which yes, implies an upgrade to Maverick) or you use an older version of DaVinci.


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Sascha Engel
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2014 at 9:26:15 am

But doesn't 10.0.9. still work with OSX 10.8.?

Sascha Engel
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Robin S. Kurz
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2014 at 10:50:22 am
Last Edited By Robin S. Kurz on Jul 29, 2014 at 11:11:13 am

[Anna Possberg] "So you either upgrade FCPX (which yes, implies an upgrade to Maverick) "

No, not true. If you do not have Mavericks installed you are offered max. 10.0.9 until you update the OS. There is no need to upgrade to Mavericks.

[Sascha Engel] "But doesn't 10.0.9. still work with OSX 10.8.?"

Yes, it does. Only versions 10.1 and higher require OS 10.9.

Question is, why don't you already have 10.0.9?? It's been out for ages and is free. 10.0.9 introduced XML 1.3, which is why it's not working. Resolve only caters to the most current version it knows of. I'm not aware of a way of "downgrading" the XML output to earlier versions.


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Sascha Engel
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2014 at 11:15:04 am

Because I'm running a Hackintosh, meaning that I'm very cautious with any upgrades.
English ProVerb: Never change a winning team. ;-)
Is the 10.0.9 upgrade still online?

Greetings,

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Robin S. Kurz
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2014 at 11:21:17 am

Not sure how "Because I'm running a Hackintosh" and "Never change a winning team." go together. Contradiction in terms if you ask me. Not sure how you could be "winning" if you can't even do a simple update/upgrade.

[Sascha Engel] "Is the 10.0.9 upgrade still online?"

Again... if you try to update (or re-purchase) and have an OS <10.9 you are only offered the highest compatible version for your OS, which in this case would be 10.0.9.


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Sascha Engel
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2014 at 12:47:39 pm

Not so much of a contradiction, if you follow some basic guidelines, one being: be cautious on updates.
I work a year not with it. Before I only had mac, but it's too expansive in the Middle East. I did several large projects already on the system. All went well so far. :-)


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Robin S. Kurz
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2014 at 12:54:12 pm

Well, I believe "cheap" to be a VERY relative term. Just with this issue alone you're obviously wasting time you more than likely wouldn't have had to waste if you were in fact using a regular Mac and therefore able to simply update when and as needed. So unless you're not paying yourself anything (for your time), I'd venture to say that using a hackintosh will in fact cost you MORE in the end either way. It's clearly slowing you down in more ways than one.

But to each his own I guess...


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Sascha Engel
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2014 at 1:06:23 pm

I appreciate your concern, but you are obviously not familiar with the Apple prices in Israel.
If I wanted a comparable machine from Mac I would have paid 3-4 times more. And yes, updating once a while with my tech specialist instead of constantly, is a price I'm happy to pay in return. :-) and I did also have problem with the real mac occasionally, so it's also not happy go lucky with the original.

Sascha Engel
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David Chai
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2014 at 1:35:12 pm

While it's understandable you want to keep your main system stable, you can surely afford another hard drive to install mavericks and run FCPX 10.1.2 and Resolve V11. This way you don't have to compromise your working system while trying out the latest versions.

By the way, FCPX 10.1+ and Mavericks is light years faster and better than the old 10.0.0.8.
For the record I also run a hackintosh for my main system. I built it when the new macpro wasn't out yet and I have PCIe cards that would have had to be replaced for no good reason at all. I also have 6 hard drives internally, which would have forced me to buy thunderbolt enclosures to keep using. Not a cheap option. It's been extremely stable and I have done many jobs on it. While I think the new mac pro is sexy, it's an expensive machine that can only be justified if you have enough revenue to pay for it and all the thunderbolt attachments needed.


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Robin S. Kurz
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2014 at 1:43:14 pm

[David Chai] "I have PCIe cards that would have had to be replaced for no good reason at all."

Might one inquire which those would be i.e. what they do?

[David Chai] "I also have 6 hard drives internally, which would have forced me to buy thunderbolt enclosures to keep using. Not a cheap option."

USB3 would of course be the much cheaper option. :) When switching I actually simply bought new disks to replace the old ones that were not only cheaper (of course) but also 3-4 times larger so they all fit onto nearly just a quarter as many disks as the original. So I even ended up with far less baggage for it.

[David Chai] "While I think the new mac pro is sexy, it's an expensive machine that can only be justified if you have enough revenue to pay for it "

That's of course a given, yes. But then it doesn't have to be a nMP either. Even a mid-sized iMac will easily outperform any given old MP exponentially, almost in all areas.

[David Chai] "and all the thunderbolt attachments needed."

Again, USB3 is your friend. ;) TBo only makes sense for extremely high-performance peripherals. As in: peripherals that need more than 200MB/s throughput.


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David Chai
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2014 at 2:16:51 pm

I have a Decklink extreme 3D PCIe card. And I already have an external USB 3 drive dock, and older firewire 800 4 bay enclosures to go along with my system. Regarding imac. I have 2 existing monitors that I use in a dual screen setup, and personally hate glossy displays. Besides only the current top end imac graphics card can beat my current GTX 570 2.5GB, and my graphics card can be upgraded to the GTX 780, Titan or upcoming GTX 880 when it's out leaving the imac in the dust. My cpu is an ivy bridge i7 3770k, which is easily overclocked to 4.5ghz. Any gpu on the imac will never equal a top desktop gpu. Thermals and airflow make that impossible. All said my hack cost me around $1600 in 2012, which included an at the time pretty expensive 256 GB samsung SSD. The macpro at the time if you remember hadn't had an update since 2010.

I have 2 older mac pros 1,1 quad, 3,1 8 core and a 2011 macbook pro. I have an ipad air, and iphone 5s. I'm about as apple fanboy as it gets. But the imac doesn't give me the expandability I want and is stuck with a glossy display. I know the pro's and con's and what I would need to pay to get back to my current setup. But it's not something I can justify at this point in time, when I can complete all my current jobs without any issue.


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Sascha Engel
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2014 at 9:20:59 pm

Thanx David. Found your suggestions very handy.
And Robin: why you can't simply accept,that we are basically happy about our HacMacs;-).
By the way: mine outperformed the strongest iMac on the Geekbench :-)

Will go to Mavericks asap and then change to 10.1.2.
Anybody worked already with the new DaVinci 11?

Greetings,

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Sascha Engel
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2014 at 9:23:10 pm

Will FCP7 still work with Mavericks?


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Robin S. Kurz
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2014 at 9:52:51 pm

[Sascha Engel] "Will FCP7 still work with Mavericks?"

On a regular Mac? Sure.


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David Chai
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2014 at 10:54:48 pm

FCP7 runs just fine on Mavericks on a Hackintosh. For all intensive purposes there are very few differences to a real mac software wise. Updating software for the most part just means you just have to patch audio driver. If you have the right GPU, then it's almost plug and play. On GPU's that are a bit different you have to read forums and be aware of the right boot flags, drivers, etc. But Hackintoshes are definitely not for everyone. They require above average knowledge of building PC's, and troubleshooting. They can take time to setup and get running stable. Updates could break them, but that's just the tradeoffs you have to live with when you want to DIY. What you gain is flexibility to build the machine that you want, at an affordable price. If you are are billing big clients a big hourly rate though, just get a real mac pro.

I'm currently working on a project on Resolve 11 b2. Very stable and fast so far.


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Sascha Engel
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Sep 30, 2014 at 10:17:12 am

I have now 10.0.9 FCPX running and DaVinci 10 and still get the invalid argument.
Any idea why?

Greetings,

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Robin S. Kurz
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Sep 30, 2014 at 10:48:34 am

Something you'll want to ask in the BlackMagic forums.

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Sascha Engel
Re: XML from DaVinci would not open in FCPX
on Sep 30, 2014 at 11:18:36 am

Will try, thanx.

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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