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James Ewart
Colour Correction advice
on Jun 16, 2014 at 12:30:13 pm

Hi.

Having a spot of bother with matching two camera shoot colour.

Match frame just does not seem to do the job for me. Here are two frames shot at the weekend with different Panasonic Cameras. As you can see they do not match well... at all.

Any tips on how best to try and match the green grass and the yellow vest?

I have done all the ripple tutorials but nothing quite seems to do the job and I am a bit out of my depth with the colour board.





Any wisdom gratefully accepted.

Regards

James

http://www.jamesewart.co.uk


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Eric Santiago
Re: Colour Correction advice
on Jun 16, 2014 at 1:39:18 pm

How much does the shot move on both clips?

I would use Resolve if it moves a lot.


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James Ewart
Re: Colour Correction advice
on Jun 16, 2014 at 5:28:44 pm

"I would use Resolve if it moves a lot."

Why?


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Eric Santiago
Re: Colour Correction advice
on Jun 17, 2014 at 1:22:36 pm

I suggested that due to Resolves power windows and tracking power.
Ive done a few in FCPX but its all keyframe based.


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James Ewart
Re: Colour Correction advice
on Jun 17, 2014 at 1:30:32 pm

Hi thanks for this.

I'm using a simple colour mask for the grass and just looking for any specific tips on why I can't get the green to match.

I'll check Resolve thanks but I think it's a bit too advanced for me.

Cheers


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Andy Neil
Re: Colour Correction advice
on Jun 16, 2014 at 3:19:44 pm

The second shot has a lot less red in it and extra yellow to my eye. Try matching the skin tones instead of the grass.

Neither shot is where I'd want to be, so I'd first correct one shot how I want it; probably the top one (take out some of the red). Then try to match the skin tones and see what that does to the grass and shirt. If the shots were taken at the same time but with different cameras, you might be able to closely match them without needing to apply masks and such.

Andy

https://plus.google.com/u/0/107277729326633563425/videos


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James Ewart
Re: Colour Correction advice
on Jun 16, 2014 at 5:33:46 pm

Hi many thanks for this Andy,

Yes I understand that exposure and contrast is not great and the colours should be more vibrant It was 0600 hrs and we were expecting rather better light but got typical UK super diffused "grey".

But the greens are so far apart I was flummoxed. Not professional cameras but my weapons of choice for 2 camera self shooting for the web, a Panasonic TM300 and TM900 both were on Auto White Balance for speed (mistake).

I have applied a colour mask and taken the green much closer to blue and that has helped.

I really don't understand colour. Once upon a time I had budgets for proper grading and it all feels like such a compromise but needs must.


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Craig Alan
Re: Colour Correction advice
on Jun 16, 2014 at 8:49:19 pm

Lots of decent tutorials on FCP X color correction. It works pretty good after just a bit of learning.

http://www.larryjordan.biz/fcpx-color-correction-intro/

Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.


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Oliver Peters
Re: Colour Correction advice
on Jun 17, 2014 at 11:50:30 pm
Last Edited By Oliver Peters on Jun 17, 2014 at 11:55:28 pm

It's actually fairly easy. The top one is too blue in the midrange. The bottom image is a bit too green in the midrange. For the top image, move the midrange color puck into the minus blue area and adjust. For the bottom one, move the midrange color puck into the minus green switch and adjust. Tweak saturation and exposure/contrast a little bit for each to match. See example - close. Might still need some more tweaking, but you get the idea.



EDIT: I think I got the saturation grabs wrong when I posted this. I increased mid sat a little on the wide shot and decreased mid-sat a lot on the med shot.

- Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com


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James Ewart
Re: Colour Correction advice
on Jun 18, 2014 at 1:29:28 am
Last Edited By James Ewart on Jun 18, 2014 at 1:53:18 am

Thank you very much indeed for this Oliver.

You have all three correction windows open (colour, saturation, exposure). How do you do this please?

http://www.jamesewart.co.uk


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James Ewart
Re: Colour Correction advice
on Jun 27, 2014 at 12:35:14 pm

Sorry to ask again but how do you get all the colour correction windows to open. I can only open one at a time according to which I am adjusting.

Many thanks

James


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Oliver Peters
Re: Colour Correction advice
on Jun 27, 2014 at 1:26:08 pm

If you mean, based on my image, then no, you can't. That was comp'ed in Photoshop purely for illustration. Sorry if that was confusing.

Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com


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James Ewart
Re: Colour Correction advice
on Jun 27, 2014 at 3:32:07 pm

Don't worry and thanks again for going to the trouble. It would be kind of cool to be able to do that no?


regards

James


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